"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Gaming the Party Girl After the Fact

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So if you all keep up with my journal, you know that I went clubbing with friends last night. Got 3 new numbers.

But now what? How do I game them after the fact, and eventually sleep with them? Something tells me that coffee dates aren’t enough. And should I even do dates with them in the first place?

Thoughts and comments appreciated.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Honestly what has worked for me with those hoes is not going straight for the lay. If you act like you are genuinely interested in their life, they think you are “different” and will bang your brains out. Remember you want them chasing you, not the other way around
 

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Take them out for classy drinks or dinner. A more conventional date. Then if that works you can take them out for something more "party" like afterwards and take it towards getting physical easily.

Though in my experience, I get s***loads of numbers at parties and then the next day none of the girls bother texting back. In hindsight I think it's better to try and get laid with the girl AT the party (at least, if she's not super drunk...ethically sketchy there obviously) and then make something of it afterwards. Most of the party girls I know who stick with a guy start it with sex at a party - texting after the moment is much harder.
 

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I'm not much of a clubber, but I have had very limited success in seeing a woman again that I met in a club.
 

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Take them out for classy drinks or dinner. A more conventional date. Then if that works you can take them out for something more "party" like afterwards and take it towards getting physical easily.

Though in my experience, I get s***loads of numbers at parties and then the next day none of the girls bother texting back. In hindsight I think it's better to try and get laid with the girl AT the party (at least, if she's not super drunk...ethically sketchy there obviously) and then make something of it afterwards. Most of the party girls I know who stick with a guy start it with sex at a party - texting after the moment is much harder.
Do NOT take a woman out for dinner until she has earned it...ie, you have gotten what you wanted. Dinner can be a reward.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Do NOT take a woman out for dinner until she has earned it...ie, you have gotten what you wanted. Dinner can be a reward.
Interesting. Dinner's normally a first date for me, I'll cross that one out then!
 

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Interesting. Dinner's normally a first date for me, I'll cross that one out then!
No...dinner is a terrible idea for a first date...you are spending money and forced to sit across from each other and engage in an interview basically.

Drinks, Kino and action(darts/pool) are usually what I do...that way you can bet on the darts/pool and loser buys the next round...and gives you both ample opportunity for getting physically involved...

I like doing things to "distract" them if they start doing well like whispering in their ear how nice they smell while brushing my lips against their neck and ear lobe, stroking their hair and telling them how soft it feels and/or how nice it smells, giving them a shoulder and neck massage...and its all done as a way to "distract them"...you'll know by their reactions if they are into you or not...

then they will reciprocate and distract you by grabbing your arms and telling you how muscular you are or grabbing your butt or rubbing their butt on you...

Its literally like shooting fish in a barrel once you have the flow of the date down...its really easy..then from there you go back get some drinks sit down and start the make out sessions and whatever else happens.
 

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No...dinner is a terrible idea for a first date...you are spending money and forced to sit across from each other and engage in an interview basically.

Drinks, Kino and action(darts/pool) are usually what I do...that way you can bet on the darts/pool and loser buys the next round...and gives you both ample opportunity for getting physically involved...

I like doing things to "distract" them if they start doing well like whispering in their ear how nice they smell while brushing my lips against their neck and ear lobe, stroking their hair and telling them how soft it feels and/or how nice it smells, giving them a shoulder and neck massage...and its all done as a way to "distract them"...you'll know by their reactions if they are into you or not...

then they will reciprocate and distract you by grabbing your arms and telling you how muscular you are or grabbing your butt or rubbing their butt on you...

Its literally like shooting fish in a barrel once you have the flow of the date down...its really easy..then from there you go back get some drinks sit down and start the make out sessions and whatever else happens.
Mostly I use the dinner dates as an excuse to eat a nice steak TBH. If the date goes s***, I still got a really awesome slab of cow meat and some thick cut chips...life's good...haha. Yeah that does sound much more sensible though dude. Thanks, I will try something a little more active like that next date, there's a great pool place near me actually.

For me it's mostly shyness with kino I need to work on, I'd find it really f***ing hard to touch a girl's hair or anything on a first date. Which is really dumb since I dance with girls every week, I don't get why I have this big wall up about it. I guess alcohol will help me there.

Anyway sorry, don't want to distract from OP's thread.
 

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So if you all keep up with my journal, you know that I went clubbing with friends last night. Got 3 new numbers.

But now what? How do I game them after the fact, and eventually sleep with them? Something tells me that coffee dates aren’t enough. And should I even do dates with them in the first place?

Thoughts and comments appreciated.
1. If they were drunk or high when you met them they may not remember you now

2. They may be totally different people sober, (which could mean they don't like you while sober and won't return texts OR you won't like them because they're boring and/or annoying)

3. Invite them to party, either take them to an event with alcohol or somewhere you can grab drinks and smoke weed or whatever. Score some coke and invite her to snort if off your coffee table, etc. (basically be a fun guy that'll give them a wild time)

4. Don't catch feels, get attached or commit until you're 100% sure that they're in control of their partying rather than their partying being in control of them
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Interesting. Dinner's normally a first date for me, I'll cross that one out then!
Dinner dates are probably the worst kind of date from a male perspective, they facilitate most of the things you don't want your date to be.

Do something not formal (you want to both be relaxed and having fun, not on a job interview),

cheap (so you don't waste money),

relatively quick (so you don't waste time if things aren't going too well, you can extend things if they are)

preferably with alcohol (you'll get sex easier)

And if possible, pick something you'd enjoy doing on your own. Being in your natural habitat will help you enjoy the date more

Note: grabbing FOOD is okay, breakfast, lunch, snacks, a place that happens to serve food like a bar or movie theater, sure.

The problem is when you gotta take her out for a 3 course meal that takes 2 hours, costs $100 (that she'll expect you to pay for), involves a lot of sitting across from each other (where kino is hard) and talking to each other (pray you have a lot in common...), etc.
 
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Interesting. Dinner's normally a first date for me, I'll cross that one out then!
I can't believe there are still guys who take women to things like dinner dates in 2018. It's not even about knowing better in terms of game and wasting money, for which it also sucks. Rather, who would willingly subject their own time to something as dreadfully dull and forced as a dinner date? I wouldn't do it if I so could eat for free.
 

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Took a girl out for drinks last night it was a first date (and no she was not a party girl)

4 drinks(1 for her 3 for me cause I was bored)
1 appetizer (not me)
$25 plus tip

I can live with that, will I see her again only if she hits me up, I got other girls down the pipeline, shoulda screened this one better right now looking for DTF girls
 
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