Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Gaming christian girls..Any advice?

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How do YOU game the most reserved or "traditional" paranoid girls?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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I really don't act any different than I do with normal girls. Some of those chicks are just begging to come out of their shell, and a LOT of them are the biggest freaks you will meet behind closed doors!
 

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Poonani Maker said:
How do YOU game the most reserved or "traditional" paranoid girls?
The majority of christian girls are among the biggest hypocrites you'll ever meet.
 

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I haven't really dated those christian christian girls, but some of my friends did and got into their pants fairly easily. One of them who I thought was still a virgin is looked upon as the future of the church, is a sweetheart, has her own bible study group, though my friend already banged her. She always blames him afterwards every time they do it too. It proves that a woman's sexual drive is stronger than her religious beliefs.
 

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The one I'm trying to seduce is 9 years younger and snobby, never says a word to me about Me or herself just about other people. She's got health issues (not severe) and is/was addicted to pain pills. Other people build me up to her, but she refuses to see my light. She is suspicious of my every move. In a sense, she's one of those "non" believers. Almost every one else treats me like I'm golden, but they try to control me too. I don't like to be pinned down.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Sounds like a girl you don't want to date in the first place.
 

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Poonani Maker said:
How do YOU game the most reserved or "traditional" paranoid girls?
My ex girlfriend was Christian, church every Sunday, went to a Christian public school her whole life, all of that.

After hanging out 3 times I was already putting my d!ck inside her and she was saying things like "I've only had sex with one other guy, 4 times, I wasn't going to do it until I was married.." and honestly it's all bull. If she feels attracted to a guy, once she's done it once she will have sex again.

She went on to become a sex FREAK. Going to the adult store to buy new toys and outfits, having sex with me on webcam for money, basically turned into a porn star. At times she was making $50 an hour.

We're broken up now and I must say this post makes me miss her a little bit lol but I bet she is hooking up with a lot of guys by now. Also towards the end of the relationship she started admitting she was really attracted to girls and she would make out with them all the time.

ONE NOTE - She was never able to reach orgasm, and I heard a strong Christian upbringing could have something to do with that.
 

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Also towards the end of the relationship she started admitting she was really attracted to girls and she would make out with them all the time.

ONE NOTE - She was never able to reach orgasm, and I heard a strong Christian upbringing could have something to do with that.
I'm concerned with this one on that line of thought too. She may possess both of those traits. She is Very close with her Swedish girlfriend. I think quite a few Christians Are abject hypocrites in that the "daddies" of these families would turn a blind eye or overlook their daughter's possessing lesbian traits, because that way, no harm will ever come to his daughter by the KNOWN violent and aggressive male. We are labeled now, all throughout society, as despicable if we reside within ourselves, within our male-flesh-eating selves. We Should be carnivores but society tries to make all of us males weak little vegetarians.

I'm so tired of people trying to control me by trying to make me "Submit" to their will, not necessarily God's will. God is in nature. I'm in tune with nature, but I realize that I'm one step ahead of nature in being better equiped (the human brain) to understand her.
 

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Also, the Christian girl I got with had some serious Daddy issues. Her parents were divorced, she felt awkward around her Dad when visiting him once a week, she always wanted me to be there on Sunday's which was "dad day". Her Mom was actually divorced twice, which of course makes a girls perception of men to be a little off.

Don't get with girls with Daddy issues unless they learned the right lesson from it, that men are hardworking and they need a loving woman to support them.

So not only was she from a strong Christian upbringing, but she did have some Daddy issues. The lesbianism thing was strange though. She started giving hints, and eventually I asked her why she was always watching Kim Kardashian. She would say "i dunno, I don't even like the show."

Eventually I got her to admit her feelings for woman and she would say "I'm straight. I'd never go on a date with a girl but I'd love to have sex with one." She would come over with a dildo and watch Kim Kardashian. I'm serious. She'd watch lesbian porn at my house while touching herself. Kinda weird.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Ok, after church this morning, I think I know what's happening now. Her other friend - not the Swedish one - is misleading her about me in order to siphon off her interest in me. Her Friend is sabotaging her and my fragile relationship in order to get to me. I see the light now. She's looking at me with the doggie bowl eyes. She's also not 9, but 11 years younger than I am. I wasn't attracted to her friend, but since she's gotten herself all dolled up now, I'm becoming sucked in by her. She knows a good thing when she sees it, AND she knows how to stab her friend in the back to steal me from her. She's cunning quick and deceptive in that sense. And in that sense, she's more fit to be my wife if it should go there. To the victor goes the spoils - Me.

This is a wait n' see kinda thing but I'm seeing/feeling that head-over-heels look from this younger one. I could be wrong but I think I'm not.

I know her father too.
 

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hahahaha..
younger the better..

good on you dude..keep it up.

although i am Christian and i have alot of respect for Christian girls.
remember ther are usually out for one thing, they wanna lock a dude down..most probably marriage.
but they are freaks.
they are usually safe
and they will mostly pull through alot to keep you happy..

Enjoy the gaming.dont ruin it.lol
 

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Imitate Jesus. No but really you are going to have to say that your apart of her religious affiliation or prove that you are a moral person. Most will say it's easier to do the first option, but if your good with philosophy you just fine. What you need to figure out is the main beliefs that she has that she associates with her religion and then indirectly show those beliefs through your actions or conversations. Make a philosophic connection and your good.
 

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Game them like any other girls. Look at how some of these Muslim girls who come to the US and become "Americanized" almost overnight and their religious upbringing becomes trivial, expect to their parents.

Hormones and attraction trump religious upbringing and just about everything else.

And yeah, some Christian girls are some of the biggest freaks out there for a variety of reasons.

Some of it might be because of curiosity, repressing natural feelings, wanting to taste "forbidden fruit" whatever.

But also be respectful of her beliefs, no matter what they are, whether they are political, religious, etc...

If your differences are so great that you can't respect hers and she can't respect yours, then your not compatible with each other.

Nothing wrong with healthy debate. She'll respect you for it, but if you insult her for her beliefs, or likewise, be overly agreeable with her, she won't respect you.

Be your own Man, feel free to disagree with others, but also respect them.
Don't try to "convert" anyone or any of that stuff either. You'll waste your time and you wouldn't like it if someone did that to you.

Some of the people who claim to be "tolerant" are the least tolerant people I know of if you don't share the same beliefs they do.

I don't want this to turn political, I'm just saying don't compromise your beliefs to try to please others, and don't disrespect others beliefs if you disagree with them.
 

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Poonani Maker said:
Ok, after church this morning, I think I know what's happening now. Her other friend - not the Swedish one - is misleading her about me in order to siphon off her interest in me. Her Friend is sabotaging her and my fragile relationship in order to get to me. I see the light now. She's looking at me with the doggie bowl eyes. She's also not 9, but 11 years younger than I am. I wasn't attracted to her friend, but since she's gotten herself all dolled up now, I'm becoming sucked in by her. She knows a good thing when she sees it, AND she knows how to stab her friend in the back to steal me from her. She's cunning quick and deceptive in that sense. And in that sense, she's more fit to be my wife if it should go there. To the victor goes the spoils - Me.

This is a wait n' see kinda thing but I'm seeing/feeling that head-over-heels look from this younger one. I could be wrong but I think I'm not.

I know her father too.
Are you serious? Do you want to become involved with someone that manipulative, that cunning, that deceptive?

What do you think she'll do to you if she would do that to her friend?

You'll be old news as soon as a brighter, shinier object comes along and grabs her attention.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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War Against Betaism said:
I haven't really dated those christian christian girls, but some of my friends did and got into their pants fairly easily. One of them who I thought was still a virgin is looked upon as the future of the church, is a sweetheart, has her own bible study group, though my friend already banged her. She always blames him afterwards every time they do it too. It proves that a woman's sexual drive is stronger than her religious beliefs.
Some women will backwards rationalize their sexual actions. They rarely accept liability for their actions and will blame others, claim they were drunk, whatever. Again, not the type of women you want to have anything serious with.
 

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I prefer girls that are Christians because it usually means they dress better, talk cleaner, and they're not sluts (unless they're a hypocrite). All of these things I find very sexy.

One good piece of advice would be: dont have sex with her or try to pressure her into having sex with you. Unless you are married to her.

But as far as gaming Christian girls, I don't know if there is such a thing. You're either "gaming" a hypocrite, or you're "dating" a Christian girl. It's almost a cliche to say this, but good girls don't have sex before they're married.

Using a lot of strong language is probably not a good idea either...
 

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I have gone to church with all of my recent girlfriends, and all of them were also freaks in bed, at least they were with me. However, they just went to church on most Sundays, and were not the type of girls who really got into it and attended church functions all the time.
 

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Most of them are hypocrites and ho's.

Which means they should be easier to game than most.
 

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Ok a wealth of information here. Derek Flint, you have some good points. I will take heed. Darth, I echo that about them being cleaner.

Update: Tonight, it was back to the original "former" kinda cold Christian gal nine years my younger. We hit It off Much better tonight. She was comfortable in conversation with me. Very relaxed on her back with legs up fiddling with her phone. I can tell she's horny for me now. It's coming to a point where I won't have to do much of anything, but pop the question. She's ready, I think. We haven't dated or anything just been to several functions and camping/picnic trips together. I've eaten dinner at her parents' several times.

Girls are just girls, but virgins are always nicer. She may be a little boring in bed for a while, but hey, you've gotta weigh your pluses and minuses. She'll be a lifelong giver and stick by my side probably. I'm ready to make some kids too. I'm so ready. A faithful warm Christian wife is what I need to get me through this life. I can't trust those other ones who are too damaged by popular culture and other guys.

I think I'm headed on the right path. I'm happy. This is just icing on the cake.
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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