"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Fun and different things to do with your woman

SmoothTalker

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Hey DJ's. I know there have been a bunch of date idea threads already, but I think this is a little different.

I'm sure we've all had relationships where things start out great but eventually you settle into a routine and it gets a little dull.

Lets list all of the things you can do with your woman in an LTR to keep things fun and interesting. Now preferably these are nothing to expensive, just fun and different.

I'll start out:
-hot air balloon ride
-camping
-dance lessons
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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vitor

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Road Trips
Ski Trips
Sex in Public
Take her Shooting
Putt Putt
Go look at Puppies
Try a new Restaurant
Get Drunk Together
Try new sex postions
Try new bars
Go on double dates
 

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Beyond having fun, just think of how she will tell her friends later about what you do together. She wants to impress her friends about the 'adventures' she has with her new boyfriend.

But if you have a 'dull' date according to her standards/desires, make sure it is something you want to do, even if she complains. She may communicate her disappointment to her gal pals, but it will be dramatic because you were in control and didn't take her whining.

Like one of my English teachers said: "Conflict is the essence of drama."
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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SmoothTalker

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Good ideas guys, keep em coming.

Yeah it's a shame about the hot air balloon rides being so much money. However, it does seem like a lot of fun and some people I know who have done it say it's a great experience. So maybe I'll try someday and let you know how that date goes.
 

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Thanks for reminding me about putt putt, my date mentioned she liked it


Thinking of other things to do

Walking a nature trail after a meal to 'walk it off'
going to u-pick blueberry farm
kareoke
picnic in the country or a park
fairs and feastivals
bowling
take a trainride (amazing how many have never done this)
rent a jet ski
drive looking at Christmas lights
a really nice coffee shop

I am always looking for affordable activities
 

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Six Flags (amusement parks)
walk somewhere
bowling

running out of things around here though
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Rollerblading in the park with some passionfruit sorbet :)

Learn an instrument together. Teach her to play some game that you like like Guitar Hero. In her mind, it will mean more because you are sharing an activity that you would otherwise do yourself
 

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* Ice Skating
* Squash together
* Boat trips / canal cruises
* Play a boardgame
* Nintendo Wii
* Go to the Zoo
 

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Miniature Golf
Renaissance Faire
Swimming
Bowling
Horseshoes
Wine Tasting (If you're over 21 obviously)
Ice Cream
 

backbreaker

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I know MORE than one woman that LOVES going to strip clubs.... My old oneiits used to literary BEG me to take her

SWIMMING!!!!

what better date? espically first? You get the easiest excuse ever for kino. it's FREE, and you get to see her damn near naked.And you are exercising
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Impact

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Amusement parks are definitely worth it for the first date. They give you and HER EMOTIONS which she will associate with you.
 
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