speed dawg
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Sorry pal, but the choice was already made. Just not by you.expos said:
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Frustrated by my HB8...
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
expos
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Good advice. Like I said earlier, I've deleted her number and all of her texts. I wouldn't mind going out with her again, since nothing really bad happened between us - but that's her move. No Contact ensues.cordoncordon said:
CaliMan007
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Agree with Speed Dawg. The choice was made by her, not you, to keep you around as a plate.expos said:
Your response to her shows the balance of power is all on her side. You enjoy her company but are ok with what she needs to do for herself? What about your best interests?
I would forget her and move on. Plenty of other HB's out there.
expos said:
I kind of stopped reading after "divorced, 3 year old". Any reasoning/justification/confusion you have is due to those 2 items. You will always be 2nd or 3rd now.
She is bored and you are good to have fun with and sex with. You want a relationship, she doesn't. Just have fun with her, treat her like a mistress and go find a real girlfriend.
Don't tell her she needs to more attentive though, wont make her knees weak.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Big Nuts
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Single moms in 99% of cases are low hanging fruit.
Pick, eat, toss away.
Pick, eat, toss away.
expos
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But damn, she was beautiful. Oh well.Big Nuts said:
It was nice to have something for awhile after being 9 months out of a 5 year relationship/marriage. Feels pretty good to hang out all day with a girl, share meals, do activities, and feel appreciated. I feel like she was filling a void - even though I KNEW she wasn't going to be any more than a casual dating partner.
MikeOck
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Honestly, you enjoyed the best a single mom has to offer: the first few months they treat a man right because they know they have a lot of baggage. Then, when the hook is set, they change from hot-fun-sex-addict to serious mom. It has been said a millions times over by countless men: avoid getting into a serious relationship with a single mom. The one and only exception is when you are both older and the kids are grown and gone.
Single moms continue to thrive in our society because plenty of men think they have the exception to the rule, only to find out later that they were being played for a fool all along. I speak from experience, a single mom I'd known for 15 years came at me hard a few years ago. She, like the girl in this thread, was one of the most attractive women I'd ever known. She kept the kids away for the first 6 months and it was all freaky sex and good times. Then one day she stopped by with her son and from that day forward everything changed. It went from sex marathons to me lugging 500lbs of kid toys/towels/sunscreen through the sand to the beach, reading bedtime stories, and basically becoming a dad to kids that weren't mine (after hearing over and over that she wasn't looking for a replacement dad). The girl in the beginning was GONE and it happened as soon as she felt she had me attached. From friend's stories to what I've read this is literally the story of the single mom and the men they latch onto, it happens every time and in every case. I learned my lesson the hard way, please, please learn from me and the others before you suffer the same fate. I managed to escape, but not before learning a painful lesson.
Single moms continue to thrive in our society because plenty of men think they have the exception to the rule, only to find out later that they were being played for a fool all along. I speak from experience, a single mom I'd known for 15 years came at me hard a few years ago. She, like the girl in this thread, was one of the most attractive women I'd ever known. She kept the kids away for the first 6 months and it was all freaky sex and good times. Then one day she stopped by with her son and from that day forward everything changed. It went from sex marathons to me lugging 500lbs of kid toys/towels/sunscreen through the sand to the beach, reading bedtime stories, and basically becoming a dad to kids that weren't mine (after hearing over and over that she wasn't looking for a replacement dad). The girl in the beginning was GONE and it happened as soon as she felt she had me attached. From friend's stories to what I've read this is literally the story of the single mom and the men they latch onto, it happens every time and in every case. I learned my lesson the hard way, please, please learn from me and the others before you suffer the same fate. I managed to escape, but not before learning a painful lesson.
Big Nuts
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expos: I've hit maybe 20 single moms (in the last 5 years)...yes they can still be hot despite the stupidity of the manosphere sometimes.
The fact is, life has run them over, enjoy the sex for as long as you can and keep spinning. You will never be #1 in her life.
The fact is, life has run them over, enjoy the sex for as long as you can and keep spinning. You will never be #1 in her life.
What if you're a single dad?
Been out with single moms and single women. The single women who haven't been married seem like they all have issues. No one has committed to them ever so they are messed up in the head. The single moms at least have similar time commitments with their kids and it may work out. Any perspective from other single dads hitting the single moms?
Been out with single moms and single women. The single women who haven't been married seem like they all have issues. No one has committed to them ever so they are messed up in the head. The single moms at least have similar time commitments with their kids and it may work out. Any perspective from other single dads hitting the single moms?
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.