You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
I will post the rest of the posts tomorrow and the TLDR, sorry.i could not find the promised TLDR jfl
Really manipulative women or outright cluster Bs sense what you're like while getting to know you, and then say things like "I can't believe how slutty women are!" or "I could never cheat, I hate cheating!" and so on, what gives this away as manipulation in retrospect is how flagrantly suggestive their statements are to you. It's virtue signaling/"snowflaking".Very good catch. She was a pathological liar and so manipulative that it would not surprise me. She may have acted inexperienced as well.
The way she quickly and flagrantly boasts about being a snowflake and how bad other people are, is what gives it away, not holding the value itself. It's the same as when they boastfully proclaim and insist that they are not promiscuous, and aggressively accuse other women of being so.To me its not so much she said that. A lot of women boast of not tolerating cheating. Its the first instance of the lie that OP put up with cluster B? Might be a reach if she says this.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
*Lovebombing*The way she quickly and flagrantly boasts about being a snowflake and how bad other people are, is what gives it away, not holding the value itself. It's the same as when they boastfully proclaim and insist that they are not promiscuous, and aggressively accuse other women of being so.
- Skewed sense of boundaries
- Calculated snowflaking/virtue signaling
- Lovebombing
She checks all three.
It rhymes with Kinder.AttackFormation said:By the way, which online dating platform was it?
Thanks! Your comment is much appreciated. Although the second half (to be published) I was so tired writing it that the quality might have slightly dipped.Dude this sh!t is mesmerizing...you should write books. People would buy them.
Thanks for sharing your story brother. Yep, a pathological liar like mine. It is like an addiction to her. She would lie about the most mundane everyday items. She even lied to me about lying to my face. "Me? I never said that..." even though she would have said it a couple of minutes prior..or she goes "well, I did not mean it in this way" to cover the lie. And her favorite answer is "I don't know".Holy sh!t! That was a ride!
You provided a lot of info and insight. Thanks AttackFormation. Cluster B type personality, now that is a new term for me.Really manipulative women or outright cluster Bs sense what you're like while getting to know you, and then say things like "I can't believe how slutty women are!" or "I could never cheat, I hate cheating!" and so on, what gives this away as manipulation in retrospect is how flagrantly suggestive their statements are to you. It's virtue signaling/"snowflaking".
Like one great philosopher inspired me to write:This OP wreaks of beta and modern cuckholdry ideology. Just saying
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Hence the existence of this whole threadWrite down all the bad qualities of her, how she made you feel and how horrible she acted. This is so important. Write it down and read it now and then. Keep reminding yourself of it.
You're kidding dude. This woman is a solklar cluster B and you are telling him she was honest about marriage? lol.If this was an "Eastern European" woman, she was very serious about the marriage question.
It is a typical response, by your quotes, and she was very serious.
You lost her when you hesitated, whether as a future wife, LTR or FWB
You passed all her tests, and almost made a few errors, but recovered... and hesitated.
She was no wifey material. Trust me on this one brother. I will publish the rest tomorrow.If this was an "Eastern European" woman, she was very serious about the marriage question.
It is a typical response, by your quotes, and she was very serious.
You lost her when you hesitated, whether as a future wife, LTR or FWB
You passed all her tests, and almost made a few errors, but recovered... and hesitated.
I a pretty sure she was honest about getting married for the first three years. What she wasn't honest about was all the rest, lolYou're kidding dude. This woman is a solklar cluster B and you are telling him she was honest about marriage? lol.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Yea but like you said she was not honest about being a good wife, to say the least.I a pretty sure she was honest about getting married for the first three years. What she wasn't honest about was all the rest, lol
A;though the "marriage ultimatum" was just a ruse to break with me as she knew I would say no.
The b*tch even told me once, after we broke up, "the way I get rid of unwanted men is to ask them to marry me" talking about her exes. Dumbass.
Fcuk she disgusts me brother....but somehow, sometimes, I still miss that b*tch. Rather I still miss who she was pretending to be.Yea but like you said she was not honest about being a good wife, to say the least.
And yeah there you go lol.
Because when one says yes, I will stay with him"the way I get rid of unwanted men is to ask them to marry me"
I asked her the exact same thing. "What happens if the guy you want to get rid of says yes?"Because when one says yes, I will stay with him
no u just miss the sexxxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxFcuk she disgusts me brother....but somehow, sometimes, I still miss that b*tch. Rather I still miss who she was pretending to be.
How would I have loved for that imaginary girl that she custom tailored to my fantasies to exist for real.
This is the women I fell in love with.
But alas, she was just an image, an unauthentic reproduction of my desires, and this is a crushing fact to reconcile with.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.