"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Friend Zone On Purpose? Pivot?

lesmurphy

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There is this girl who I brought home a month ago an slept with on two other occasions within the same week. After about the second time I slept with her I realized I did not like having s ex with her. She is a nice person, but I really don't want to sleep with her anymore. She has been trying to hang out with me and I have been telling her that I have been sick and kindly brlowing her off. Last night she sent me a txt inviting me to an awseome concert tonight. I am going to this show and going to have a great time, but I also want to start putting her in the friend zone so I can start using her as a pivot.

Is there something I can say or do to prevent her from assuming that we will sleep together so I dont look like a total assho!e, or if it is brought up, a polite thing to say?

She has too many hot friends to completly ignore her, I feel like I could use her as a pivot to get to the rest of her friends?

Anyone have this experience before? I want to trade up if that is possible...
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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SickAgain

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Buy her a lot of stuff, constantly tell her how beautiful she is, and call her up 10 times a day.
 

lesmurphy

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I dont think that will work, she like me too much...and would be too flattered...maybe, but doesnt tht screw me up for the friends of her?
 

Rex Man

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Simple. Give her the LJBF speech but continue to set stuff up with her. Interject a DJ friend (you've got one, right?) to pull her. (Assuming she doesn't look like death)

Keep your vow of not smurfing her and by the time your friend does you should be pivoting like a trapped Larry Bird.
 

lesmurphy

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RexMan I like your Larry Bird simile. So as far as the LJBF speech, do I say it just like that...I think we should just be friends, or code it?

I live in a new place so I don't have too many friends yet, but I think I can pawn her off somehow to one of the people I know or to a random wing I find at a bar when I am with her.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Jaxon

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Dude you already f*cked her, there's no chance in turning her into a friend now, at least not one that will help you to get women. Move along, move along.
 
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