"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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FR: So this is what's happened today.

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Unlike most of my FR's, this is going to be more of a journal. Not the 'approach' in boxes thing I usually do. Nothing really happened until afterschool when I approached this Joey girl and got her number. So she told me what she was there afterschool for, we talked about Rock Band and I told her I knew her sister. Eventually I'm like, "Hey, I had a good time talking to you. Can I get your number?" and she goes "If you want it". So I give her my phone and to my surprise, not only does the girl put in the number like most girls, she saved me the trouble of putting the name in and did that for me to. So after that, I start talking about the play and her brother comes in and I start including him in the set as well. Eventually I close out of that set and leave.

Then the most random thing ever happens, I'm sitting in the front of the building and this group of Freshman girls starts coming up to me acting all horny and stuff. Two of the particular girls eventually come up to me and I'm like "I'm sorry you guys are too young" and gently push both of them away and while they're leaving I hear one of them saying "Call me!". Moving on to the play, basically during the play, the most interesting thing was when I just chilled with these girls. Eventually Allie came in and she was giving me a bunch of interest, constantly looking back at me and once I can remember saying "Sorry girls, VIP only" when they looked, to which I remember them laughing. But yeah, that's basically today's interactions.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Don't hate, I got the number and I don't see you guys hating getting anything.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Whats that stuff women put on before they go out?

Oh yeah. Make up.
 

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lol Wescott you're the new neighborhood troll. Seriously, every thread you post in of mine you say something report worthy. It's not so much that the post was bad, it just has ZERO to do with the topic.
 

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Report me then. If that makes you feel any better about making up field reports, report me.
 

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In Motion said:
WTF is it with you and Rock Band?
this is the reason why a girl who gave elstud her number will flake every time. You're not supposed to bring up Rock Band and video games. For example, what do you think would be a girl's response if I said, "yeah, I think Super Mario on Nintendo is really cool. I'm really good at it. Do you like it?" Well, she'll think "what a nerdy loser!" but say "yeah I played that before." See it gets you nowhere and turns a girl off to you... the exact opposed of what you want to happen.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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ElStud said:
we talked about Rock Band and I told her I knew her sister. Eventually I'm like, "Hey, I had a good time talking to you. Can I get your number?" and she goes "If you want it".
what you said here is really bad. Can you not tell she's not into you at all? This girl won't remember you. Also, I would suggest coming up with another line to ask for her number. What you said seems like you had rehearsed it before. Try and make it seem more natural.
 

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WesCottII said:
Report me then. If that makes you feel any better about making up field reports, report me.
Making up FR's, oh stop hating man. When I see you, I see no DJ, I see someone who uses tricks on women and acts like an overall *******. What's deeper though, is the REASON WHY you're accusing me of making sh*t up. And why? I don't really care, because one day you're going to realize just because you say or think something it's not true. Basically, you can say my FR's are fake however many times you want, but it'll never be true. I think we've got quite a delusional guy on our hands. And in the end? Who gives a crap about what you think, asshole? I'm still going to be approaching girls, getting their numbers and making FR's, despite you claiming they're fake, WITH NO PROOF OR EVIDENCE.
 

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ElStud said:
Making up FR's, oh stop hating man. When I see you, I see no DJ, I see someone who uses tricks on women and acts like an overall *******. What's deeper though, is the REASON WHY you're accusing me of making sh*t up. And why? I don't really care, because one day you're going to realize just because you say or think something it's not true. Basically, you can say my FR's are fake however many times you want, but it'll never be true. I think we've got quite a delusional guy on our hands. And in the end? Who gives a crap about what you think, asshole? I'm still going to be approaching girls, getting their numbers and making FR's, despite you claiming they're fake, WITH NO PROOF OR EVIDENCE.
Let me ask you a question. Do you want numbers or sex?

Girls give out numbers like candy, getting sex is a whole different story...
 

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HandyAndy said:
Or seeing jesus walking down the street :p
And I still get numbers, which is something I've yet to see TrollingAndy do or Arizona's ice pee do.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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ElStud said:
Then the most random thing ever happens, I'm sitting in the front of the building and this group of Freshman girls starts coming up to me acting all horny and stuff. Two of the particular girls eventually come up to me and I'm like "I'm sorry you guys are too young" and gently push both of them away and while they're leaving I hear one of them saying "Call me!"
Uh sorry bro but....in high school, when girls do that, they are making fun of you man. :crackup:
 

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well i have gotten more numbers than you and it isn't what i spend every waking hour caring about. get a hobby. get a girlfriend... stop finding girls that you think are your friends. hookup with someone already! i could go up to 90% of the girls in my school tomorrow and get their numbers, but i just don't care...

but, i challenge you to a duel. we will see who can get a 15 numbers the fastest :D

now we just need a way to make sure its legit... any ideas?
 

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ElStud said:
And I still get numbers, which is something I've yet to see TrollingAndy do or Arizona's ice pee do.
Have you encountered the possibility that they DONT post every single interaction they have with the opposite sex? When I get a girls number I don go and post the entire story on some forum.
 

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ElStud said:
Making up FR's, oh stop hating man. When I see you, I see no DJ, I see someone who uses tricks on women and acts like an overall *******. What's deeper though, is the REASON WHY you're accusing me of making sh*t up. And why? I don't really care, because one day you're going to realize just because you say or think something it's not true. Basically, you can say my FR's are fake however many times you want, but it'll never be true. I think we've got quite a delusional guy on our hands. And in the end? Who gives a crap about what you think, asshole? I'm still going to be approaching girls, getting their numbers and making FR's, despite you claiming they're fake, WITH NO PROOF OR EVIDENCE.
Wow, toys really are out the pram now. Want a kleenex?

When I see you, I see no DJ, I see a loser, plain and simple.

Jees, you are retarded. When do I use tricks? Everything I've told women in pick-ups is true and has happened to me. Unlike you, who sucked with women, and we told you it was pointless without getting a number, and now, lo and behold...you get a number with every interaction? Nah. It's crap. 'Specially from you, who got thrown out from A&F for being creepy, and all of a sudden you're Brad Pitt of the seduction world? Too unbelievable, especially, since you have the emotional age of a 3 year old, can't debate, cry over every reply to your threads, but still persist in posting boring, unbelievable interactions.

You're a joke kiddo.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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