Luke Skywalker
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I'll take my chances.rocky_mtn said:Luke, if you're playing all sorts of tricks, or techniques, or games or whatever you want to call them, then expect to get some back.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
I'll take my chances.rocky_mtn said:Luke, if you're playing all sorts of tricks, or techniques, or games or whatever you want to call them, then expect to get some back.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
See man, now ditch that ESP stuff, she would like YOU if you would stop hiding behind a persona. Allow yourself to run free, be filled with the passion of what YOU want out of life. If you like this woman, instead of worrying about what you said, why not think about what you want to do TO her. Let all your sexual ideas flood your mind, and then let it manifest when you are with her. I guarantee it will slow down your speech, but an interesting smile on your face, and keep on eye contact.Luke Skywalker said:Third date -- pat myself on the back for attempting a kiss-close twice on the date.
Some stuff went out of my mouth which I regret - such as saying "I'm playing the field" when she asked me what I'm looking for implying just casual relationships or something, but, she was actually quite nice with me, and even told me, not to use the Polar Bear pick up line because it sucks. I think that maybe I can really be myself around her as she's not seeing me with a critical eye like the others.
NO KISS CLOSE WAS EVER ATTEMPTED IN MY WHOLE LIFE --- FIRST ATTEMPT IN 30 YEARS !!!!! FIRST TIME I HAD THE BALLS TO GO FOR IT.
FIRST KISS CLOSE ATTEMPT:
---> Asked her what was the craziest thing she's ever done? She told me she got drunk. She asked me what the craziest thing I ever done was? I told her to close her eyes and I'll tell her. She said she cant keep them closed because she doesn't trust me, and is scared of what I may do while her eyes are closed.
There went the first kiss close attempt.
SECOND KISS CLOSE ATTEMPT:
----> She suggested a hug. And this time, I asked her for a kiss, and she told me 'eventually'. This is a 'delayed' yes' by the books, and was relieved thta she didn't say the dreaded line "Let's just be friends".
I think there is a genuine bond between us, and dont think it's going to collapse like the others, so this is potential LTR or something.
I'm thinking of writing an email to clarify myself on 'playing the field', was meant to be socialising and meeting new people. Why the heck do stupid things come from my mouth --- well she wasn't visibly offended or she wouldn't have hugged me.
I disclosed the 'suprize' was a kiss. Had that up my sleeve - thought it would work - after all, I did the cube routine and got her to visualize, and she closed her eyes.
I cut the date short -- as is my own policy of coffee dates - the longer it is, the more likely to say something stupid and your not in a seductive environment. She dug the ESP tests, and the other tests, and we seemed to have a bit of fun.
Had to try it once on someone.pooparu said:See man, now ditch that ESP stuff, she would like YOU if you would stop hiding behind a persona.
Just a nasty c&b from another date, I've had some nasty experiences of getting blown off on statements, ok, this has led me to be a bit paranoid.pooparu said:Allow yourself to run free, be filled with the passion of what YOU want out of life. If you like this woman, instead of worrying about what you said, why not think about what you want to do TO her.
This is the gunwitch model. I did talk to her about 'crazy things', so I thought adventure, crazy, and that stuff was interrelated.pooparu said:Let all your sexual ideas flood your mind, and then let it manifest when you are with her. I guarantee it will slow down your speech, but an interesting smile on your face, and keep on eye contact.
So this works eh, ok, I'll look into it. Thanks pal.pooparu said:In fact, I must say that now that I read gunwitch he is right, its about sexualizing yourself. Here's what this all really breaks down to:
1. Meet
2. Let your sexuality manifest itself.
3. Succeed.
Raw, animal sexuality that comes across to a woman as a powerful presence will get her turned on, she WILL want you, and you won't have to say any negs or C+F or whatever.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Most jobs want a guy that already has related job exerience. Granted, I haven't been consistently sending out resumes or going to job agencies, but if felt that it would be some of dead-end if I tried.skip2mylou781 said:Luke....how is it possible that u havent been able to find a job with a college diploma for almost 10 years???
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
roelplay i guess, but sounds like hes testing iois to me, if she goes along with it its an ioi.Luke Skywalker said:I've been thinking of the TD style and where I went wrong on this particular kiss close (other than the fact she wasn't ready for it today).
TD would tell the girl that he loves her, and see if she responds that she loves him back, and then make a marriage proposal to her --- then he says just close your eyes -- he works on the trust component by mentioning 'love' getting her to say she loves him back, and makes a mock marriage proposal.