sageproduct
Banned
Update: she is now my gf
I have never had a gf in my life before
Update: I am still a virgin
I have never had a gf in my life before
Update: I am still a virgin
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Grats dude, but this is an impending recipe for disaster.sageproduct said:Update: she is now my gf
I have never had a gf in my life before
Update: I am still a virgin
I enjoyed this post, especially your description of the change in mentality you underwent. +rep.backbreaker said:when i was younger, as in like, first really getting into this **** in my early 20's mjy mindset was like "is she or is she not interested"
as i got more experience it became "is the amount of work it's gonna take to get where i want worth the effort"
there are some girls i'd date I knew would like me but just were too much effort for not enough results. by results i don't even per sa mean ****ing just women who read too many damn cosmo magazines and over play their hand, "don't go 5 dates without going over his house first/showing affection/blowing him"
after date 1 i should be here
after date 2 i should be about here
after date 3 i should be about here
at date 3 if i'm not about where i think i should be i really don't care if she likes me or not.
like you go on a great, GREAT date and then the next day it's like she went online and read a magizine and read "oh girl you can't show too much effection so now play hard to get for a week" and now she's acting like she didnt' have a great time, i got better **** to do i really do.
Cuddling on the couch, watching Suits. During the intro sequence I turn to her:Purefilth said:Fair play lad. How did this come about?
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Congrats on the gf. You deserve some type of success/progress after all the work you've put in improving your game.sageproduct said:Cuddling on the couch, watching Suits. During the intro sequence I turn to her:
Me: Hey, you're my gf.
Her: Okay.
We've been spending every weekend together for a couple weeks now, texting a little bit almost every day. She's starting to open up to me just a wee bit but is still super quiet and reserved. My parents came into town this Saturday to grab lunch, and she came with and met my (crazy) parents.
Found out she had a scumbag boyfriend in high school who cheated on her and hit her across the face in public when he thought she was flirting with someone. Her parents forced her to go to counseling for a year after that. That's all she told me, just the bare bones...it was probably even worse than she let on
Sometimes thinking about that I can't help but visualize it and fly into an emotional rage over it...but I make sure to get a grip on myself when that happens because if I show too much emotion over her past that'll just discourage her from opening up to me more
You cheated on and hit your gfs? I can't roll with that man.SoSuave666 said:chill bro, the bolded makes you sound like how a couple of my ex gfs would describe me.
The second bolded portion is most likely inverted. It was probably not nearly as bad as she lets on. Women have a way of demonizing anything in their past which is not beneficial to their image.
Thx.AAAgent said:
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
SoSuave666 said:I never hit my women because its never come to that. As far as cheating goes, yea I've cheated. They never found out though. Morally I don't find it as reprehensible as a lot of other people. I've never been one for monogamy though.
Anyway, what I meant by my post is not that I did those things but that after a break up a woman will say whatever is necessary to save face. Equality is a one way street for these women. If you don't lay down the law in the relationship they will resent you. Just know that after a break up you will be a lying, cheating, beating, small-****ed loser.
Last point. As this is the era of the pill, with every parent diagnosing their kids as depressed or ADD, it wouldn't surprise me if she didn't fluff up her story about the ex. All it takes is a little drama in her life to get some anti-depressants and a few psych visits. Also, if she's so fvcked mentally, I would suggest you stay away. The last girl I had that overtly communicated to me that she was depressed and had family issues turned out to be BPD.
Not saying one way or another bout your girl, but just be wary. A lot of experienced men here know not to trust a woman's word. This is your first one, so expect a bit of a bumpy road.
She only ever mentions anything when I ask about it. She never volunteers this stuff on her own or makes a point of it.Plutoman said:If she leaves it in her past, though, then go for it. And you can use the experience. Just keep some emotional distance, eh? Guard yourself a bit. That doesn't mean don't care, but don't fall too deep. Keep some room between you and the ground until you know it's safe.
Well being Asian, I'm going to have a small **** no matter whatSoSuave666 said:Just know that after a break up you will be a lying, cheating, beating, small-****ed loser.
Thx broRonaldo7 said:Your text game needs A LOT of work. She must not be able to get better if she settles for you, seeing how needy and desperate you are. That works out in your favor though.
I already went through that phase though, the entire first 3 months we spent in the undefined, casual dating phase. I only texted her a couple times a week, went ghost for as long as 6 days once. In fact after the second date we went 6 weeks without seeing each other.Pimp-sicle said:When your not with her and you guys are simply dating, her imagination is your best friend. She will assume your dating others.
When she texts you and you don't text back fairly quickly... she will think your on another date. And that make her want to fuvk and fuvk and fuvk.
You spending every weekend together, texting a little here and there everyday takes part of that competition anxiety away.
Seems like you want a difficult lifesageproduct said:This may sound weird to you guys but I have a thing for making people happy. It's a strong (and somewhat unhealthy) drive that I have. There are two things that I want out of this more than anything else and they are 1) I want to make her happy and 2) I want to be the person who makes her happy
BeginningDJ said:So this is why you're taking a break from this site. We get it...it's ho's before ho-mo's.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
I want a meaningful lifeBrownBear said:Seems like you want a difficult life![]()
sageproduct said:You cheated on and hit your gfs? I can't roll with that man.
Her parents told her the guy was a POS but she defended him saying he wasn't. He hit her across the face in a parking lot. Don't know how you can cut that one any differently. She told me one of the hardest things she ever had to do was admit to her parents that yes, he was a POS.
Did you miss the part where I said she went to counseling for a year after that? That sh1t's not cheap man, her parents dragged her to it and kept her going for a YEAR so things must have been worse than what she described to me.
Thx.
She was in high school when this happened though...she only shared what she shared when I slowly pried her (over multiple dates) on the subject. Never volunteered any information.
dear sausage-product your inner AFC is acting up.sageproduct said:I want a meaningful life
sageproduct said:Update: she is now my gf
I have never had a gf in my life before
Update: I am still a virgin
Hey now yo9u were in high school once right? Or middle school...foreverAFC said:how is she your gf if she isnt fcking and blowing you from how much she wants you, are you sure you arent mistaking the friendzone for a relationship ?
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.