"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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FR: Elevator in my apt. complex (seeking analysis)

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I was in my workout clothes (shorts,sleeveless shirt) as I entered the elevator going down in my apt. complex. The elevator opens and I see this girl whom I've never seen before. She was dressed like she was either going to a club or on a date. It was about 8:00p.m.

Dialogue and action:

Elevator door opens. She puts her head down (NOT in the "I don't like you" sense, but more in the depressed sense) and moves the back corner of the elevator.

Me: Hey, what are your plans for tonight?
Her: I don't know. I don't have anything planned. What day is it?

puase, she is thinking

Her: Oh, it's saturday. I just haven't been doing my regular thing lately, so I forgot. (Note that she didn't sound like one of those dumb girls. She wasn't talking really fast either. She just seemed kinda in a weird state of mind). Well, I don't have anything planned.

I was smiling at her when she didn't know what day it was.

Me: That's funny that you didn't know the day.

The door opens

Me: Well, I hope you have fun whatever you do tonight.
Her: Smiles and is happy, Thanks

Then I walk out since I got off on the floor above her.

Looking back I think I should have invited her to my place.
I thought maybe her saying that "she doesn't know what she gonna do" and then after that , DESPITE THE WAY SHE WAS DRESSED UP, she was perhaps trying to forgot about her plans that she had because she didn't like them and was hoping I'd change them.

You guys will probably say I'm reading into this too much. But I'm just curious why she was dressed that way and then saying more progressively (3 different times, and stronger, more direct each time) that she wasn't doing anything?

edit: My question is: Was this a come on by her or was it just regular convo.?
 
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

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Damn all this thinking and no closing.

Why don't you tell us about how you were second-guessing yourself in the elevator the entire time? All the girl can do is give you some hints. She did and you didn't go for it - there's nothing more to discuss except that you should be disappointed in yourself and use this motivation for next time.
 

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the girl meets you for the first time in an elevator, she doesn't know you from jack the ripper... don't ask her to follow you to your place, but someplace where she will feel more safe, like a public place
 

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lol
i wish we could see more 'field reports' like this. maybe one that took place coming out of the lobby and saying hi to the doorman, or having a chat with the bus driver as one gets off at their stop.
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Originally posted by wolfie
lol
i wish we could see more 'field reports' like this. maybe one that took place coming out of the lobby and saying hi to the doorman, or having a chat with the bus driver as one gets off at their stop.
So I was ready to get off the bus, and I asked her "Could you please stop the bus here?"

AND SHE DID! That must a definite sign of attraction, guys do you think I should have asked her out?
 

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Originally posted by R3N3G4D3
So I was ready to get off the bus, and I asked her "Could you please stop the bus here?"

AND SHE DID! That must a definite sign of attraction, guys do you think I should have asked her out?
no, you should have remained on the bus and banged her after everyone else got off, haven't you learned anything here?
 
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