Grand Wizzard Alamar
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You need a muzzle. I know a good animal shelter too.superchill89 said:
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
FR: Approached a few sets at lunch.
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Michele l'Arcangelo
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jesus christ people. stop replying to him.
he asked for imput and rejects them. just stop replying to him.
i challenge everyone to make every one of his threads die with at most 3 posts.
he asked for imput and rejects them. just stop replying to him.
i challenge everyone to make every one of his threads die with at most 3 posts.
And, I've got several FR's that says that I'm atleast DOING something and improving. Most of the guys who give advice on here don't have one single FR and a lot of guys giving advice here, are clearly fake because they give advice and then make a thread whining about their girl problems.Bvbidd said:
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Most people don't post their daily interactions with the opposite sex on a message board and proclaim they are doing something successful. They're not.. they are just talking. Not to mention you post creepy interactions which I wouldn't think you would want other people knowing about. If you think your improving you got A LONG road ahead of ya.
Wrong, most people giving advice here NEVER post ANY interactions with opposite sex, but then give advice like they know what game is all about. You're similar to this, you've got a bunch of threads giving advice to other dudes, but where's your proof? Nowhere to be found. Haha, yes, I'm improving but since you like to judge by "words, words, words" and not actual interest level, you don't think I'm improving.Bvbidd said:
That's the point, people who actually talk regulary to people do not find the need to post FRs. We wouldn't obviously remember every sentence either.
The only point of an FR I see, is if you want to brag about getting laid.
The only point of an FR I see, is if you want to brag about getting laid.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
smooth guy
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You're posting on a ****ing message board of course it is words words words. Unless you expect to see homemade porn videos with our girlfriends.
If you aren't willing to take any advice because all you see is text and you see no "proof" then just don't ASK for it in the first place. You have some serious personality issues and I can tell that just by seeing the stuff you write on the internet. No surprise you're struggling to make friends and get a girl to talk to you.
Wanna see proof of my success because I'm replying to this topic? Well **** you. I don't feel I have to proof something to a helpless person over the internet. I can tell you that I am a very social person with lots of social proof who does interact with girls on a daily basis, and yes has a girlfriend. Sorry for not feeling the need to brag about it
And no I haven't got laid yet.. I posted nothing about sex though, I gave you just the BASICS to improve, yet you disregard it just because it wasn't the answer you were looking for.
My advice is above and I advise you to take it seriously. You might not need social proof now at the age of 17 desperately, but you're gonna have a hard time having a fulfilling life when you're older without it. Life isn't just about pulling girls, you need to get your other **** together FIRST. I'm done with giving advice to you, take it or leave it. Keep approaching girls insulting them or being needy joining their group and making conversation because you have no one to hangout with on lunch breaks thinking you're going on about it the right way. Good luck my friend.
If you aren't willing to take any advice because all you see is text and you see no "proof" then just don't ASK for it in the first place. You have some serious personality issues and I can tell that just by seeing the stuff you write on the internet. No surprise you're struggling to make friends and get a girl to talk to you.
Wanna see proof of my success because I'm replying to this topic? Well **** you. I don't feel I have to proof something to a helpless person over the internet. I can tell you that I am a very social person with lots of social proof who does interact with girls on a daily basis, and yes has a girlfriend. Sorry for not feeling the need to brag about it
And no I haven't got laid yet.. I posted nothing about sex though, I gave you just the BASICS to improve, yet you disregard it just because it wasn't the answer you were looking for.My advice is above and I advise you to take it seriously. You might not need social proof now at the age of 17 desperately, but you're gonna have a hard time having a fulfilling life when you're older without it. Life isn't just about pulling girls, you need to get your other **** together FIRST. I'm done with giving advice to you, take it or leave it. Keep approaching girls insulting them or being needy joining their group and making conversation because you have no one to hangout with on lunch breaks thinking you're going on about it the right way. Good luck my friend.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Tell me Dav and tell me Real, what makes you guys think you're so big? You're obvious not as good at getting women as you make yourselfs to be. Neither of you have anything threads and you both have less than a hundred posts, but feel the right to act superior to everyone on the board.
If you can find a post where i've said i'm good at getting women i'll give you a cookie. I have no interest in showing off or posting about my interactions because it doesn't help me, but i'm still willing to give advice where people ask for it (eg. HERE).ElStud said:
Also you're failing to realise it's not how sucessful you are, it's how good you are at improving and finding where you went wrong. Something you're seemingly incapable of, that is unless you're just doing these posts for a laugh (which is probably sadder than this site could ever help you recover from).
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.