"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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So I was just walking around during the track meet and I see these 2 girls. Blah blah, I opened and one of the girls seemed immediately interested. I qualified the one girl by telling her "Ah, you have the same name as my sister I like you more" and the other girl is constantly trying to get in on the in action. At one point I put my arm around that girl and she returned the kino by putting her hand on my back. Other than that, most convo was fluff. Eventually I hugged her and ended the convo.

Talked to her later again, introducing her to my friends and I basically have another fluff convo with this girl. Eventually she had to leave to run the two mile and I said bye.

Something random that happened was these girls randomly coming up to me and giving me a piece of starburst. Then I'm like "So what is this my birthday present or something?" and one of them is like "Yeah".

I could've definitely closed this set, but didn't.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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MikeYikes122 said:
Do you ever actually run during these track meets?
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no way man hes too busy running his A game on those track chicks!!
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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MikeYikes122 said:
Do you ever actually run during these track meets?
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ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!! you know thats probobly the best question he has ever been asked. You just made my day buddy.
 
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ElStud said:
So I was just walking around during the track meet and I see these 2 girls. Blah blah, I opened and one of the girls seemed immediately interested. I qualified the one girl by telling her "Ah, you have the same name as my sister I like you more" and the other girl is constantly trying to get in on the in action. At one point I put my arm around that girl and she returned the kino by putting her hand on my back. Other than that, most convo was fluff. Eventually I hugged her and ended the convo.

Talked to her later again, introducing her to my friends and I basically have another fluff convo with this girl. Eventually she had to leave to run the two mile and I said bye.

Something random that happened was these girls randomly coming up to me and giving me a piece of starburst. Then I'm like "So what is this my birthday present or something?" and one of them is like "Yeah".

I could've definitely closed this set, but didn't.
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Elstud what do you do evenings/weekends? I think you need to get out and start interacting with PEOPLE at other places than school. It'll help your 'school game' immensly too.
 
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ElStud said:
I could've definitely closed this set, but didn't.
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sad story.

Should have asked them if they wanted to play rock band with you and check out your drumstick.
 
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Should have asked them if they wanted to play rock band with you and check out your drumstick.
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LOL

This forums turning in a joke, quite literally.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Haha, keep coming with the funny comments guys. This is a prime example of how this forum has gone to hell and is no longer about seduction, but spamming, making jokes and hating on the guys getting success, while you guys stay home and don't do sh*t.
 
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Elstud, I tried to PM & email this to you but it wouldn't let me.

I'm not sure if you've noticed but I've spent the past week & a half trying to defend you & get guys off your back. Now for the most part, they are not going to disappear but they've seem to stop yelling & name calling. They have however resorted to mocking you via picks but at least they are not flame baiting you anymore.

However I'm starting to see that your not helping the situation. Your trying to incite them into more flame wars again with this post:

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Haha, keep coming with the funny comments guys. This is a prime example of how this forum has gone to hell and is no longer about seduction, but spamming, making jokes and hating on the guys getting success, while you guys stay home and don't do sh*t.
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If you truly are looking to improve, stop wasting your energy arguing when its not going to help you improve. Simply ignore the haters and only respond to the advice you are given.

Right now your on the path to becoming on equal level with iqqi. However the reason why she isn't banned is because she actually gives good advice at times. I can't say the same for you. The reason I'm telling you this is because I'm trying to help you and I want to see you improve.

I know guys are hard on you but its because they've been tryin to help you. Remember that. So can you start being a little more mature and not get into flame wars please.
 
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Haha, keep coming with the funny comments guys. This is a prime example of how this forum has gone to hell and is no longer about seduction, but spamming, making jokes and hating on the guys getting success, while you guys stay home and don't do sh*t.
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http://petlauncher.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/dont_kill_me.jpg

Ye real succes indeed

ElStud said:
I could've definitely closed this set, but didn't.
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http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g30/Sonzor/lol.jpg
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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