"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Le killeur

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I think this is actually a regular occurence and a regular reason women flake. In any case delete the b*tches number, no time for damn lyers, shes not worth you.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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It's interesting too read such diverse opinions on the matter.

Why would one man say delete her number, while another says keep pursuing her?.

Experience?, ability?, relationship goals?
 

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Johnnyventana said:
"Accidentally" show up at said location with hotter chick.

In any case, she clearly is happier seeing her girlfriends, than you. How happy does that make you? Next.
This. I'd love to see the expression on her face if he did this. Doubly so if he brought a bombshell with him.
 

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she ditched out on you yeah, but she did it in a way to kind of like help spare your pride. then she tried to reschedule.

you guys arent bf/gf yet so this kind of stuff is gonna happen. don't take it too hard, and just go out with her next week. if she flakes again, call that **** off.
firm believer in two strike rule
 

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I had a young (well 27 yr old) petite (actually too short for me but I had no other women as good as her responsive to me early in the week this week) flake on my as5 last night (after a long grueling day at work - I was actually quite relieved that she flaked, didn't really feel like seeing her forgetful, lying as5 last night). We'd set up this date on Monday. I'm telling you guys, it's 30% that you will be able to see, come through for you and honor her word. These b!tches forever think "I don't owe anything to you!" (you're just another dude, I don't give a sh!t about you, I've got 100 others hitting me up/"blowing up my iphone," Why do you always see me looking down at my pretty little handheld device *smiling* and giggling and this influx of messages?, I get off, I don't even have to call/text you to cancel our date, I don't have to do nothing, cause I've got Many, many other dudes waiting on me hand and foot).

Ok, well, she flaked me. Well, I'll never call her as5 again, And I'll never answer any attempt from her to get back with me. As she becomes 28, 29, 30, and 31 yrs old, she'll be getting less and less opportunities to get with a guy like me, the less and less opportunities to use her ***** power cause her face (what we guys like to look at while fvckin her) will grow dranoier and groverier rugged slack, thus making her iphone compete with crickets in the noises it makes that makes her jump with glee.

So, for tonight I have another gal I'd met through another who I haven't fvcked and probably never will, cause she's just, well, taken. Both young. Her friend has an ok body not super thin like I like, and her face is ok not homely just normal not blazing hot, but she's young and I aim to fvck her tonight. She could be long term material cause she's kinda quiet or womanly (can't stand loud-mouthed or chatty women). Her girlfriend will be with us but I'll be able to get her away for a while at their apartment when we go back there. Would be soooo sweet to bang both tonight. Don't know what I can pull off, especially if her boyfriend is with her (99% chance he will be :().
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Iceberg said:
This stuff with women...it's a hobby. Not a career. This is the fun stuff you focus on that gets your mind off the REAL sh*t in your life. In fact, that's where guys screw up - they treat these girls like there's some real outcome invested in it.
Good point...the only counterargument could be people don't help other people get women.

To get your mind off the stuff life throws out you, friends help you by listening, drinking, watching sports, etc. But they never help you with women. Some best friends even sabotage you..so you are left thinking they have value and there has to be an outcome when you invest in them.
 
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