For Us Men, it's a Buyer's Market

[Atom Smasher]

The following is a must-read. It just may open up your eyes to the abundance that is out there.

The name of the article is, "Why Women Lose the Dating Game".

If we keep up what we're doing here at SS, educate other men and bring them to this site, there's no telling what can happen on a societal level.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...omen-lose-the-dating-game-20120421-1xdn0.html

 

[firebug]

Only a buyers market for the Men that women consider to be 10's

It's always been like this, and always will be.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Good post.

Both genders have their peak in attractiveness at different ages. Physically attractive women ages 18-30 are always in the highest demand and have lots of options. For men its more like 28-40. For both genders age alone doesn't create value. Women need looks and men need status. A homeless man of ANY age will have limited options just like an ugly woman of any age.

The good news is men have more control than women. Men can raise their value through education, wealth, hitting the gym, career advancement, etc. Women rely mostly on genetics and youth.. which they have no control over. Plus, they have a smaller time window than men to be attractive AND to reproduce.

 

[Atom Smasher]

As they get older, they realize it's game over for them, and they get a foothold on reality. The "10" fantasy starts fading away and they start to understand their value has diminished.

The older you get, the better it works out for you. Women who previously wouldn't give me the time of day now chase after me. This is because of two factors working together for me... Their ever-decreasing value and my ever-increasing value. As I learn game (or more appropriately, the art of influence and power), I notice I'm garnering more and more attraction.

Many men are grossly mistaken that "It's always been like this". It hasn't always been like this. Women have always had certain tendencies that we notice today, but prior to the late 70s the average woman still had far more respect for men and considered it an honor to have a good man. I know... I lived it.

Most men (and even most men here) are under the illusion that "it's always been like this" because of their feminized education. It's very difficult to move one's perception out of personal experience and awareness and into a more global timeline.

Even in the "Golden Age" of SoSuave, perhaps about ten years ago, the world was a very different place. The universal deterioration of Western women's character has accelerated greatly since even that recent time. The prominent posters here were dealing with a dynamic that wasn't as pronounced as it is today.

The bottom line is that we need to remember that as men we have innate authority; We built the entirety of civilization, from great dams and buildings to tiny sewing needles, and therefore we have dominion over our world. Our value increases as we age, and women's decreases, and wise is the man who leverages this to his advantage.

 

[skinnyguy]

This article was about guys who are dealing with desperate women in their 30's. If you meet a woman in her 30's who's single, you need to be cautious. There's a reason they are single. All the good ones get cooped up before they turn 30.

But then again, it's all relative. If you're into ugly women, you will CLEAN UP at any age. If you want the hotties, it will be tough even when you're 35 unless you're Brad Pitt.

Personally, I want a professional woman who doesn't have kids. I'm primarily interested in marrying a lawyer (I'm not worried at all about her being bossy or argumentative, I can handle it and in fact like it because it shows she has a backbone). I would also marry a doctor, but they work crazy hours some times.

 

[YAboi]

loved it...except for the reckless sex part

 

[Night-hawk]

Many men are grossly mistaken that "It's always been like this". It hasn't always been like this. Women have always had certain tendencies that we notice today, but prior to the late 70s the average woman still had far more respect for men and considered it an honor to have a good man. I know... I lived it.

Most men (and even most men here) are under the illusion that "it's always been like this" because of their feminized education. It's very difficult to move one's perception out of personal experience and awareness and into a more global timeline.

Atom Smasher, an informative post here mate. Would you elaborate on your experiences of women around the 70s/ pre 70s period and how this era contrasts to today. I myself as a GenWhy have witnessed changes over even the past decade, and how this illusion you speak of becomes branded into us at early age and later through the education system.

It may be a benefit to our perspective of social changes in gender dynamics to understand the differences of these eras.

 

[firebug]

Throughout all of human history a minority of men have impregnated the majority of women, this is proven by genetics.

Anybody that denies that "it has always been like this" is a delusional noob.

 

[Renegade357]

That article is about Australia which is way different than the US. Most men there wait until 38 to get married and there are way more hot/in shape girls there.

The US has less hot girls proportionally. Many are very average/bellow average.

 

[Atom Smasher]

Throughout all of human history a minority of men have impregnated the majority of women, this is proven by genetics.

Anybody that denies that "it has always been like this" is a delusional noob.

That's me... a delusional noob...

 

[Night-hawk]

I see how the SMV of men and women differs, and each provides its own added value in the SMP. That I have observed, and I do agree with PHM on the reality of what constitutes such value such as looks for women and status for men and how age can become irrelevant of significant depending if such SMV criteria is met. Sure there are other variable to be accounted for, but there is a lot of empirical evidence to support these theories and social observances.

On another note, this is a scene from Madmen that struck a cord with me when I first saw it.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8XXoxCjdfTY

 

[European-DJ]

If you have read the dj bible along with the articles in 'the archives' and the best rates tips in the tips section, you will see that this is what has been preached all along.

- Get yourself together, and when you hit your 30's you will have a lot more options. It is no mystery that 20% guys is doing 80% of the women, that's something that has been preached for long here as well.

Get your act together, be the best version of yourself and become part of those 20%. Women are defiantly NOT everything in life, actually I don't even consider then the frosting of the cake anymore, they are merely small insignificant additions to our life - If you rate them any higher than that, then realize that is your reason for failing with them.

 

[DonGorgon]

Only a buyers market for the Men that women consider to be 10's

It's always been like this, and always will be.

exactly and that is only about 5 to 10% of the males available to them which still leaved 90% of males to struggle and lose the game

 

[Trump]

Interesting article, but all old news. Any guy could tell you he wants young and pretty to marry. The money, education, and independence a women in her 30s brings to the table is no comparision to a young women with good looks.

Amazed these women think so stupidly and are allowed to have PhDs.

 

[dasein]

Agree with Atomsmasher's assessment of feminized education. Also, women today dig their own self-absorbed holes by considering only what -they- want at any given juncture in life, then expecting men, who have been forced to work hard to have the same amount of sexual choices average women have from youth on with no work or reflection at all, to give into their agenda, and then these entitled principessas shriek like stuck pigs when men don't go along at every step. Tough, too bad, and hilarious at the same time.

Expect more and more of this whinging recycled in ever more creative ways as the alternative is unthinkable to today's women... live your life as if you are in a world of other people with their own desires as opposed to a solipsistic fabulous mirror world of infinitely indulged impulses in the moment. In gynoworld, recycled whining, rationalizing and blameshifting is so much more palatable than making the choice to put aside narcissistic, functionally disordered behavior and unhealthy attitudes/expectations, so expect lots more whining before any meaningful change in attitude takes place.

"The TV, school, culture, etc., told me I was perfect and deserve perfection, so it must be true. Where have all the men gone who realize my perfection? There is simply something wrong with men." ROFL

 

[D Wolfgang]

Throughout all of human history a minority of men have impregnated the majority of women, this is proven by genetics.

Anybody that denies that "it has always been like this" is a delusional noob.

Not always. It was like that in the Stone Age, which is what genetic research shows. The strongest men would set up harems for themselves, and the other men had to share the less desirable and older women.

But eventually monogamy, solidified by marriage and explained through religion, came to dominate in every society that reached above the Stone Age, just like private property and trade.

(Note that the only societies that have "free love" and no private property today, praised incessantly by Marxist "cultural anthropology", Franz Boas' politicized pseudo-science, are jungle societies and island societies that are perpetually small, perpetually harsh and primitive, perpetually poor and starving. The old, the sick and even children are left in the forest to die in hard times, which come often.)

Monogamy made sure that the "beta" men, who are the vast majority, had a vested interest in improving and building the societies they lived in, so that their children would have a good future. Thus we got civilization, with roads and wheat and wheels and such.


Which is not to say that we don't still have a strong instinct to mate with many women, an instinct that is not "bad" or "sexist" but simply normal. Paradoxically, we also have the competing instinct of romantic loyalty, "love" that releases endorphines and makes us empathize with another person, the better to form a household where the children get a good start. As men, we have to wrestle with conflicting instincts due to evolution not being a straight arrow. And women think they have it tough.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Simply put, the pendulum cannot swing in the same direction indefinitely. At some point, it is bound to start swinging the other way.

 

[Atom Smasher]

Simply put, the pendulum cannot swing in the same direction indefinitely. At some point, it is bound to start swinging the other way.

Very well said indeed.

 

[VladPatton]

Perhaps if women retained their natural feminine ways and rid themselves of entitlement; their PhD's, 6 figure salaries and mild crow's feet wouldn't bother us.

 

[Wolfgang D]

Perhaps if women retained their natural feminine ways and rid themselves of entitlement; their PhD's, 6 figure salaries and mild crow's feet wouldn't bother us.

I have never been bothered by a woman's work. That is feminist B.S. that we see in Sex and the City and other propaganda. (At speed dating in Sex and the City, the guys are all instantly repulsed by Miranda when she tells them that she is a lawyer. In speed dating in Manhattan. Complete feminist bullsh!t propaganda. Amazingly, that was many years ago, but a girl I talked to last week remembered that particular scene when I brought it up. They love such stories about how "oppressed" they are.)

What I am bothered by is women with a chip on their shoulder. If they have that because they wasted their lives getting a high-paid job, then find themselves childless and panicking at age 37, or if they have it at age 21, makes no difference. By contrast, I thoroughly enjoy talking to a woman who is smooth and sensual as flowing water, no matter her job. This is the same for every guy I know.

Today I was at a coffee shop with a girl I know who is doing highly advanced doctorate research. Doesn't intimidate me the least. And by the way, it's still me who comes up with the most interesting conversation topics when we meet. (I am also in Mensa, and I have yet to meet a woman there (about 20 percent of members) who comes up with interesting conversation topics. It is always a small number of men at the meetings, such as me, who come up with things to talk about. A woman who can't even say something interesting, why would her job intimidate me?)



It's like Château Heartiste says, in his Dating Market Value Test For Women:

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/dating-market-value-test-for-women/

I hope everyone noticed what was missing from this test:

Your job.
The amount of money you make.
Your accomplishments.
Your social status and number of friends.
Your deep and profound worldview.

And although off topic, here is the finishing paragraph in the test:

Unlike the men who took my Male Dating Market Value test, I do not expect *any* women to be completely honest with themselves taking the Female Dating Market Value test. The female ego is simply way too fragile to absorb the shock of such a brutal self-assessment. Therefore, I will be mentally subtracting 10 points from every woman who posts her score here in the comments.