I suggest you focus on developing a network of friends in a social circle as #1 priority. You would be surprised how much having a group of guy friends can help you get women. If you are just some loner, you are going to have a much harder time meeting women. Even women friends can help, but you need guy friends as well.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
For those that have no life/girls
- Thread starter rrrrr
- Start date
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Maxtro
Master Don Juan
How?rrrrr said:
Master Bates
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Ken785
Master Don Juan
how?? man i asked you to go sarging like twice already...Maxtro said:
Maxtro
Master Don Juan
Thats different. Right now I don't like the idea of going out to look for chicks. That will probably change when this semester is over.Ken785 said:
But the point of my "how" was that the OP's "tip" without an explanation on how to do it is basically useless.
Consider these "tips"
If you want to have regular sex, get a girlfriend.
If you are short on cash, become a millionaire.
They aren't that useful now are they?
“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
SickAgain
Senior Don Juan
forget getting guy friends. get a job. you have to interact with strangers all day and that will help with social skills. people have to understand you can't go from an introverted loser to some guy who starts cold approaches. you need to develop your social skills first. a baby can't walk if it can't crawl first. plus you can always make friends with the people you work with. it has so many benefits, money too.
Maxtro
Master Don Juan
Actually getting a job is a great idea. But it has to be a place where a lot work. I'm trying to get a retail job because I'm broke. Most retail jobs will have a lot of "young people" working there. The rest is up to you.
knglerxt
Senior Don Juan
Maxtro said:
Yeah. I have a job, but it doesn't give me a lot of chances to talk to women. I'm a security guard at a computer manufacturing plant. There's actually a girl I like who works in the Administration department, but I hardly ever see her. Now, if I worked with this girl and was around her every day I could talk to her.
That's my main problem. It's not that I can't talk to girls; I'm just not around girls long enough to get to know them. If I could change this one thing, I don't think I'd have much of a problem getting a girlfriend.
Maxtro
Master Don Juan
Actually trying to get girls at work is generally a bad idea. A job is generally a good place to make male friends.
But still, find an excuse to go talk to that admin girl.
But still, find an excuse to go talk to that admin girl.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
knglerxt
Senior Don Juan
SickAgain said:
Why do some people around here insist on insulting and degrading other people? Why do you have to use the word "loser"? Why not just say "introverted guy" or something?
SickAgain
Senior Don Juan
Introverted people don't have many friends and lack social skills. Losers don't have jobs. Sometimes they just go together, like in this case. I'm sorry if you got offended. I'd rather be introverted than a loser for sure.
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Learn the real definitions of introverted and extroverted. They have nothing to do with social skills.SickAgain said:
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
SickAgain
Senior Don Juan
There's no need to get pedantic. You know what the fvck I mean.Master Bates said:
If you want to have guy friends just for the purpose of getting pu$$y then you are weak IMHO.rrrrr said:
Grow a pair and approach women. Friends will actually slow down your progress most of the time when it comes to women because most of them are AFCs.
comic_relief
Master Don Juan
go out and talk to people.Maxtro said:
I'm curently in college and I have a large amount of friends because of it.
If not in college? Go do some charity work. Why? You get two things a sense of well-being plus a bunch of good people that will work with you.
Getting a job? I have mixed reactions about. First, I don't like working under people and secondly, most of the time (retail especially) the work will get monotonous. My job right now, is awesome. I love working as the mascot because I am constantly out meeting new and interesting people.
comic_relief
Maxtro
Master Don Juan
I'm in community college, have been for many years. I've never made a friend out of it. Granted, I don't bother talking to guys as I have no interest in making any effort to make buddies. I only talk to girls and I have yet to do anything outside of class with any of them. But this is the first semester that I have begun to engage people in conversations.comic_relief said:
I have been thinking about doing some volunteer work. My mom has done some for the big events in the city and she has said that there were many girls my age doing that stuff.
ROFL the mascot :crackup: And yet it suits you perfectly
steveoo5
Don Juan
I thought this site was for people looking to improve their game not people who think they know everything, trying preach some stupid retarded shiv
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.