al77
Master Don Juan
For those of you who use online dating: when do you ask her for her phone number\IM chat\date?
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
I've always been an advocate on skipping the #close and going straight to the date. If she's interested, you'll have her number by the end of the date.Originally posted by gixxer
...Lately, I've been going right from email to date - without the phone call. Usually I frame it as "I'm doing XYZ, would you like to go with me." This is only if I have high IL in her and think she'll be fun AND I've seen a good enough assortment of pics that I can be pretty sure she's attractive to me.
Francisco,Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
Once mutual rapport and interest level is established, not before.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
I'll say it again, you need to qualify her. If you enjoy talkative, outgoing women and she's the type that enjoys watching Jell-O melt in the summer sun, NEXT HER! It's just that simple.Originally posted by al77
Francisco,
This is a golden rule!![]()
Question: With quite a lot of average Janes I could not establish enough rapport at all... they seem interested, write back, share thoughts.....but they seem do not have a sense of humor of any kind. I am puzzled... what to do? just next them since they lack of one of the key ingredient right away?
I am in relatively rural/suburb area, so citizens of large cities may not have this issue at all...
I'm hard-wired to pursue only women who really interest me.just stop pursuing women that don't interest you.
Yes, once you have a little raport (usually 1 positive email back is enough depending on the personality of the girl), I have had 100% success with skipping right to asking for a date. I usually say something to the effect of 'Why don't we meet to see if there is any chemistry. It's so difficult to really get someone's personality from email and IM.'I've always been an advocate on skipping the #close and going straight to the date.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
I'll say it again, you need to qualify her. If you enjoy talkative, outgoing women and she's the type that enjoys watching Jell-O melt in the summer sun, NEXT HER! It's just that simple.
No one ever said that you have to be attracted to every woman that you have any type of interaction. Stop feeling that you have to draw out specific qualities out of every woman you meet. Trust me, less trouble is had from women who are comfortable to show their true nature. Be it good or bad, you will never need to waste time wondering about trivial things about them.
I said it before that until you become specific about the type of women that interest you (and adhere to those specifications), you will waste time with women are less than what excites you. It's not really difficult guys, just stop pursuing women that don't interest you.
What would make it hard to be natural? It's difficult to switch between modes of dj and non-dj more so. One can still interact with women they're not interested in, they just don't need to close them.Originally posted by chronic
Agreed. It took me while to get this one. It's hard to be natural and uncontrived when you don't really have interest in a girl. Never settle.
Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
What would make it hard to be natural? It's difficult to switch between modes of dj and non-dj more so. One can still interact with women they're not interested in, they just don't need to close them.
Here's an example, you're at a club or party talking to a group of women. There's one or two that you are interested in and one or two that you're not.Originally posted by chronic
Yeah but why would I want to interact with a woman that bores me? My natural reaction would be not to interact with her at all. There are enough women around that I should not have to waste time on women who don't interest me.
So are you saying it's kind of like networking? One person may not be of much help to you but he/she may have a friend who may be able to benefit you. Good point.Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
Here's an example, you're at a club or party talking to a group of women. There's one or two that you are interested in and one or two that you're not.
Would you selectively interact with only the one or two that interest you? Would you ignore the others? Would this possibly impact the first two's perception of you?
Just something to consider.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Actually, I wasn't going in that direction but you do bring up a good point about networking. Actually it does feed into where I was going.Originally posted by chronic
So are you saying it's kind of like networking? One person may not be of much help to you but he/she may have a friend who may be able to benefit you. Good point.
I generally have a tough time spending time with people I don't like but I think I'm going to try being a little more open from now on. I have probably closed a lot of doors for myself without even knowing it.
Please elaborate. I don't understand.Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
However consider that you are adjusting your authentic self because of these people you do not click with. You are cheating yourself because of some other person, you are relinquishing your control of who who are.
Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
Let's say that you are charismatic with some people and aloof and uninterested with others. Now what if these people share the same circles? Some would describe you as outgoing and friendly, others may say that you are unfriendly and a loner. There you have incongruence, the thing that keeps one from being authentic.