"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Food server - tips. about how much can u make?
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
PleasureKing
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Most people tip around $5 to $15. and on average, if you handle 10 tables a day, thats around $50 to $150. but you said night shift, so it really depends on the group at the table, and how many you can handle per night.
make a couple friends at your work, and ask them for better answers.
peace
The PleasureKing
cpddavis
Don Juan
If you net $100 in tips you probably grossed around $130.
I wouldn't expect TGIF to have a lot of exceptionally good tippers so your sales would probably have to be at the $800-900 range to make $100. But it can really vary from night to night. You really need to find out how much you can sell on a typical night before you know how much you can make.
If you work at Denny's you might walk out with with $50, if you work at a posh fine dining place you might walk with $350.
qweretyuiopas
Master Don Juan
I only worked at a very expensive restaurant as a server, but it was French service not American type service, so it was much harder much more refined, serve from the right remove from the left, even did some cooking tableside, like bananas foster etc. It was only about 6 weeks cause it was apart of my schools program. I only worked there for about 3 hrs a day 4 days a week, I would handle 4 tables max each day and make at least 30 for a 2 top and at least 50 for a 4 top so u can add all that up and see the kinda cash I made everyday and everyweek. Granted I did alot more work than any server at the typical american restaurant, even did some cooking tableside, so I earned my moneys worth. I hated serving but for that kinda cash Id do it anyway. Too bad it was only brief cause of its thing going with my school.
I'll give u some advice you gonna get you some people that are gonna piss you off, and they will hate you for no reason too, be as nice as you can and hold back. I had this chick late 30's had the hot chick syndrome thought she was a 10 but was a 6 on her best day. I went to put water and bread on the table and told them id be right back to take their orders. I walked off and a server who was waiting tables near mine said when I walked away she said to her friend 'I hate that guy' talking about me. she did alot of stuff that day to piss me off (complaining about the silverware, calling over my supervisor cause she assumed i got her the wrong salad when it was just fine, taking her order back cause she said her fish wasnt done even though it was, amoung other things) It was even worse cause she was a friend of one of the chefs (turns out he found her annoying sometimes too). I almost cussed her out and even went over and said 'you know what...' and stopped myself. I got a 2 dollar tip from that 2 top and the 2 bucks came from her friend not her.
Bottom line is even if u get a douche as a customer, be as nice as possible, or else u will make the mistake like me and get no tip.
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
To make extra money, suggestively sell alcohol and desserts. They increase the tab, which increases your tip. For example, don't say, "Do you want dessert?' Instead, say, "we have two great desserts tonight, the ___ and the ___, which one can I bring you?" That's suggestive selling, where you just assume they want something.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
JPFromTally
Senior Don Juan
Some ethnicities tend to complain more and tip way less. So if there is a predominance of them in your geographic area then you will be frustrated quickly working at this type of establishment.
My average ticket per person is $18. I would suspect your average ticket will be much lower than that.
Last year I averaged $85 per shift in our busy season. I expect that to rise to $100 per shift this year since I'm a lot better at my job.
Rocko
Senior Don Juan
I totally disagree with this.JPFromTally said:
If you break through a person's barrier (the wall they put up), you will be tipped well. I get excellent tips from people of all races.
Low class people tend to tip poorly, and I encounter more low class white folks than low class people of other races (I'm in Arkansas so YMMV).
cpddavis
Don Juan
Look, some black and hispanic people are decent tippers. But generally, it isn't something their culture places much importance on. I've waited a ****-ton of tables in my life and talked about this with countless servers. I don't know a single one who would disagree with me on this, including black and hispanic waiters. Additionally, men are better tippers than women and most college kids are terrible (regardless of ethnicity).
Additional piece of advice: Don't wait tables at chain restaurants. Tips suck there. Find a popular local place that people like to drink at a lot. You'll have better luck, meet cooler service industry people.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
To address the last issue first: I work at the best restaurant in town. I have no control over the fact that the best restaurant in town is a chain steakhouse. We have the best waitstaff in town, no question.cpddavis said:
I get excellent tips from women for the most part. I would be willing to bet I average 15% with minorities. A few of them tip me me bad but for the most part I do well.