logicallefty
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We've all been there^ or we would not be here \/. OP, welcome to the forum.This is the biggest thing that makes me realize you are a beta: you care what she thinks and how it looks to her. .
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
We've all been there^ or we would not be here \/. OP, welcome to the forum.This is the biggest thing that makes me realize you are a beta: you care what she thinks and how it looks to her. .
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
This is at the top of the list for me. Not hot? I'll settle for cute... and I'm sure she'll grow on me.Yeah I had a girl move in with me but I kicked her out cause she was so ungrateful and didn’t show any affection to me.
It’s really really tough to find a high quality female who is respectful and kind.
Lots of good points being made on this thread. I will add that her fvcking her ex shows that her continued interest in him played a big role of the first break up. Her fvcking him was like cheating on you but in her eyes it was ok because she threw you some shyte and pushed you away first to justify what she knew she was going to do.....which was fvck him.
This is why you never take back a cheater.
Her current actions tell me that he has again resurfaced or her interest has shifted into someone else. Nothing more.
Dont fall for her crumbs if she ever reaches out. This woman has red flag after red flag.
We've all been there^ or we would not be here \/. OP, welcome to the forum.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
In a MNC myself and have a few country managers reporting to me.
I suspect you must be managing administration or such ?
Anyhow head to HR and get the booklet/links to leadership role/managers guide that's mainly for managing operations and people. The information there is pretty much generic across every MNC and useful. Dealing with women is pretty much the same as when dealing with subordinates; as you are in the leadership role - this is what people here mentions as frame.
What you have been lacking is basically a strong frame aka leadership.
Alternatively if you enjoy reading, go to the DJ bible section, read up on POOK's threads there, it will be more concise then what you could get from HR or from your website link.
And if she comes over in lengerie to fvck then what?Update- starting getting fed up of the constant posts on social media, selfies, jokey videos with friends, bull**** posts etc, wanted to try and remain as alpha as possible by keeping her on there and showing I didn't give a f*ck
Figured it was only going to delay my healing and keep me focusing on something that didn't require my energy...
So I blocked her
Not sure how i feel, don't want to give away any sort of power to her but it was the right thing to do for me.
Checking in.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Tell her she got the wrong house lmaoAnd if she comes over in lengerie to fvck then what?
You could. Or you could hit it and put her out when the deed is done .Tell her she got the wrong house lmao
Don't worry about what she might think of you once you blocked her..Tell her she got the wrong house lmao
Exactly. She didnt care about your feelings when she fvcked her ex. Or when she rejected you several times now. Fvck what she thinks. It's all about what's best for you now.Tell her to go, kick rocks!
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
That means shell rebel and be cheating?I've learned to dread this
Please, enlighten me?I've learned to dread this
So if gf was drinking with her gf's. And had too much to drive, you wouldn't pick her up from gf's or the bar? Cause of she was at either of these, it's not some guys house .Please, enlighten me?
Red flag?
See, when she said to me previously "Its usually the woman doing this sort of thing for the man" (picking her up when drunk)
Now that was degrading....I never want to be THAT guy again lol
Did you say "hot potato"?It means you're the safe boring guy
Hey bro . To get out of that "pvssy" seat your currently sitting in go start fvcking some other females . It will raise your IDGAF level and get her chasing . Females love a challenge and love a pursuit and love knowing their man is desired.Yeah sadly man, I know you are right.
Very similar to the circumstances the first time in which she would withdraw and become distant, this time was no different.
I was constantly walking on eggshells and trying to keep her happy, it wasn't natural from my point of view, it was very much a game, and I know that's nothing to build a RS on.
Hitting me a little hard today, wish I could be alpha as f*ck and not give a s*it , seen her at work etc although she didn't see me, think I need to try and spin a few plates to take my mind off it..
The harsh thing is I feel I have been taken for a "ride again" from being so hot to so cold within the space of a few days is what baffles me, literally just last week at my mums surprise party she was saying how she cant wait to settle down with me and become 'Official' and that this time she knows she is ready..
Again I made a few mistakes, I think I made a few too many that were difficult to recover from. I always used to say "Nobody ever likes the nice guy"
Her mom, dad, sisters, best friends - all say how much of a nice guy I am and how I'm perfect for her, but lets be honest, that has no bearing on the situation if she doesn't feel it herself.
I met her friends a few weeks ago (they are a lot older than us) and we hit it off straight away, we've been out numerous times since then, I had her phone the other day calling a taxi and a message popped up from one of these friends saying "you've got an absolute diamond there, never let him go"
That's just my issue, I'm always trying to play the shining knight and bend over backwards to try and make people (women) happy, say the right things, do the right things, I've realised over time that's exactly the opposite of what I should be doing, I've just never been brought up to understand how 'to play the game' and that's the disappointing thing.
If anyone does have any links or advice in order for me to brush up then please don't hesitate to post in this thread.
Thanks
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.