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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

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First date when walking together arm around shoulder or waist?

alwaysimproving7

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Say you're walking together in public wheres the best way to put your hand on her? Any diagrams on how to properly put your arm around her waist?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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mothballs

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There is no rule. You could just walk next to her, hold her hand, arm in arm, arm over shoulder/waist... it all depends how the date is going and where you want it to go. Personally I'd stick to just holding her hand if it's going well... it sends a clear signal without getting too "intimate". It's low risk and good payout if you are trying to get to know her to date.
 

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diagrams? really?

My suggestion is whatever you do, DO IT WITH CONVICTION! Be a man and take charge. if you wanna hold her hand, then do it, and be totally comfortable with it, so she will be also.
If you are feeling weird, scared and forcing the physical touch... it will come off as weak and creepy.
Have that SEXUAL INTENT and take what you want.
 

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Save holding hands for after you have kissed her and got intimate.

For now, you can kino her by putting your arm around her shoulder when you're walking through a crowd, to guide her. If you got teasing involved, nudging is cool. If she's giving you a really good vibe, you can even point and touch her cheek, etc, which is more "threatening". But until that stage, do some light kino to set the tone and get her comfortable with you without feeling intimidated.

Don't kino too much, too. Try to space out your advances. Give her a little, once she's comfortable, STOP. Take a break, then continue the kino again.

Push and pull is the basis of attraction.
 

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If I were you, i'd take initiative. If you make your move out of nervousness, it'll look and feel creepy.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

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cola said:
try the back pocket of her jeans
Pimp reply so far...darn why didn't I think of that? LOL... like put my hand in her packet...shiiittt but what if she's wearing short shorts with flip flops? haha oh well
 
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