"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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First Date tips and reminders

Hikapo

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Going on my first lunch date in 6 months.

DJ Reminders I have for myself

1) Don't talk to much about yourself. Focus on her.
2) Kino.
3) Be myself.


Anymore guys? Give me more reminders please.

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A little background with this girl:

Met her at my doctor's office. She is a receptionist there. I visit my doctor once a month. I asked her out on the 6th month(which is now). Took me the 3rd visit to start a conversation and got to know her a little. She moved from Georgia 6 months ago. Has a friendly and bubbly personality.
 
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Kailex

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Don't mention the second date.
Don't compliment too much.
Don't talk about a future together.
Don't say "I love you".
Don't bite her ear off.
 

Matt281

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Don't concern yourself with little sh!t. Relax and be engaged with her rather than thinking about all the stupid little pickup tips you've heard, and it'll go fine.
 

Slickster

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Start to finish

Big smiles and kino when you meet her
Funny or interesting story about something that just happened to you recently. Gets the ball rolling.
Keep the conversation light and fun.
No talk about relationships, past ex's, or future dates
Ask open ended questions.
Let her do most of the talking and look interested.
Lunch should be cheap so pay the bill. If she offers great but tell her you've got this one.
After the bill a little more convo but start looking for your out.
Be the one to end the date first
Don't linger when saying goodbye
End it with a simple smile and "It was good seeing you. Talk to you soon"
Be gone in a flash like you have someplace to be.


My plan for first dates is keep it simple, fun, and short. I like to act positive, interested, and like I'm genuinely enjoying her company. However I end the date quickly with no kino, no kiss and no mention of a future meeting. I want her to go from feeling like I was really interested to totally unsure. A pull-push if you will. Leave her feeling like it was an awesome date but she doesn't know if she'll see you again. I sometimes do this for the first 2 or 3 dates.

Some of the girls I've done this to in the past became gf's and told me that those first dates drove them crazy! They had no idea if I was interested or not. Also everyone of them raved about how great our first kiss was later on. They were literally dying for it.
 

sebastian11

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Slickster said:
Start to finish

Big smiles and kino when you meet her
Funny or interesting story about something that just happened to you recently. Gets the ball rolling.
Keep the conversation light and fun.
No talk about relationships, past ex's, or future dates
Ask open ended questions.
Let her do most of the talking and look interested.
Lunch should be cheap so pay the bill. If she offers great but tell her you've got this one.
After the bill a little more convo but start looking for your out.
Be the one to end the date first
Don't linger when saying goodbye
End it with a simple smile and "It was good seeing you. Talk to you soon"
Be gone in a flash like you have someplace to be.


My plan for first dates is keep it simple, fun, and short. I like to act positive, interested, and like I'm genuinely enjoying her company. However I end the date quickly with no kino, no kiss and no mention of a future meeting. I want her to go from feeling like I was really interested to totally unsure. A pull-push if you will. Leave her feeling like it was an awesome date but she doesn't know if she'll see you again. I sometimes do this for the first 2 or 3 dates.

Some of the girls I've done this to in the past became gf's and told me that those first dates drove them crazy! They had no idea if I was interested or not. Also everyone of them raved about how great our first kiss was later on. They were literally dying for it.
no kino? i think that's a quick way to get yourself into friendzone honestly
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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SamMalone

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At the end of the first date, I always tell a girl that "I love you" and just laugh. It works. Shows them I'm not the type of guy that would say that for real, and it gets them to playful hit me and stuff. Hasn't done me wrong yet.
 

Doc Freezy

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I wouldnt pay, and tease her if she didnt bring money or expects you to pay for her.
 

tsmith2334

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Slickster said:
Start to finish

Big smiles and kino when you meet her
Funny or interesting story about something that just happened to you recently. Gets the ball rolling.
Keep the conversation light and fun.
No talk about relationships, past ex's, or future dates
Ask open ended questions.
Let her do most of the talking and look interested.
Lunch should be cheap so pay the bill. If she offers great but tell her you've got this one.
After the bill a little more convo but start looking for your out.
Be the one to end the date first
Don't linger when saying goodbye
End it with a simple smile and "It was good seeing you. Talk to you soon"
Be gone in a flash like you have someplace to be.


My plan for first dates is keep it simple, fun, and short. I like to act positive, interested, and like I'm genuinely enjoying her company. However I end the date quickly with no kino, no kiss and no mention of a future meeting. I want her to go from feeling like I was really interested to totally unsure. A pull-push if you will. Leave her feeling like it was an awesome date but she doesn't know if she'll see you again. I sometimes do this for the first 2 or 3 dates.

Some of the girls I've done this to in the past became gf's and told me that those first dates drove them crazy! They had no idea if I was interested or not. Also everyone of them raved about how great our first kiss was later on. They were literally dying for it.
^ Follow this, to the tee. This guy knows his stuff. Repped.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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