"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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First Date tips and reminders

Hikapo

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Going on my first lunch date in 6 months.

DJ Reminders I have for myself

1) Don't talk to much about yourself. Focus on her.
2) Kino.
3) Be myself.


Anymore guys? Give me more reminders please.

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A little background with this girl:

Met her at my doctor's office. She is a receptionist there. I visit my doctor once a month. I asked her out on the 6th month(which is now). Took me the 3rd visit to start a conversation and got to know her a little. She moved from Georgia 6 months ago. Has a friendly and bubbly personality.
 
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Kailex

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Don't mention the second date.
Don't compliment too much.
Don't talk about a future together.
Don't say "I love you".
Don't bite her ear off.
 

Matt281

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Don't concern yourself with little sh!t. Relax and be engaged with her rather than thinking about all the stupid little pickup tips you've heard, and it'll go fine.
 

Slickster

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Start to finish

Big smiles and kino when you meet her
Funny or interesting story about something that just happened to you recently. Gets the ball rolling.
Keep the conversation light and fun.
No talk about relationships, past ex's, or future dates
Ask open ended questions.
Let her do most of the talking and look interested.
Lunch should be cheap so pay the bill. If she offers great but tell her you've got this one.
After the bill a little more convo but start looking for your out.
Be the one to end the date first
Don't linger when saying goodbye
End it with a simple smile and "It was good seeing you. Talk to you soon"
Be gone in a flash like you have someplace to be.


My plan for first dates is keep it simple, fun, and short. I like to act positive, interested, and like I'm genuinely enjoying her company. However I end the date quickly with no kino, no kiss and no mention of a future meeting. I want her to go from feeling like I was really interested to totally unsure. A pull-push if you will. Leave her feeling like it was an awesome date but she doesn't know if she'll see you again. I sometimes do this for the first 2 or 3 dates.

Some of the girls I've done this to in the past became gf's and told me that those first dates drove them crazy! They had no idea if I was interested or not. Also everyone of them raved about how great our first kiss was later on. They were literally dying for it.
 

sebastian11

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Slickster said:
Start to finish

Big smiles and kino when you meet her
Funny or interesting story about something that just happened to you recently. Gets the ball rolling.
Keep the conversation light and fun.
No talk about relationships, past ex's, or future dates
Ask open ended questions.
Let her do most of the talking and look interested.
Lunch should be cheap so pay the bill. If she offers great but tell her you've got this one.
After the bill a little more convo but start looking for your out.
Be the one to end the date first
Don't linger when saying goodbye
End it with a simple smile and "It was good seeing you. Talk to you soon"
Be gone in a flash like you have someplace to be.


My plan for first dates is keep it simple, fun, and short. I like to act positive, interested, and like I'm genuinely enjoying her company. However I end the date quickly with no kino, no kiss and no mention of a future meeting. I want her to go from feeling like I was really interested to totally unsure. A pull-push if you will. Leave her feeling like it was an awesome date but she doesn't know if she'll see you again. I sometimes do this for the first 2 or 3 dates.

Some of the girls I've done this to in the past became gf's and told me that those first dates drove them crazy! They had no idea if I was interested or not. Also everyone of them raved about how great our first kiss was later on. They were literally dying for it.
no kino? i think that's a quick way to get yourself into friendzone honestly
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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SamMalone

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At the end of the first date, I always tell a girl that "I love you" and just laugh. It works. Shows them I'm not the type of guy that would say that for real, and it gets them to playful hit me and stuff. Hasn't done me wrong yet.
 

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I wouldnt pay, and tease her if she didnt bring money or expects you to pay for her.
 

tsmith2334

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Slickster said:
Start to finish

Big smiles and kino when you meet her
Funny or interesting story about something that just happened to you recently. Gets the ball rolling.
Keep the conversation light and fun.
No talk about relationships, past ex's, or future dates
Ask open ended questions.
Let her do most of the talking and look interested.
Lunch should be cheap so pay the bill. If she offers great but tell her you've got this one.
After the bill a little more convo but start looking for your out.
Be the one to end the date first
Don't linger when saying goodbye
End it with a simple smile and "It was good seeing you. Talk to you soon"
Be gone in a flash like you have someplace to be.


My plan for first dates is keep it simple, fun, and short. I like to act positive, interested, and like I'm genuinely enjoying her company. However I end the date quickly with no kino, no kiss and no mention of a future meeting. I want her to go from feeling like I was really interested to totally unsure. A pull-push if you will. Leave her feeling like it was an awesome date but she doesn't know if she'll see you again. I sometimes do this for the first 2 or 3 dates.

Some of the girls I've done this to in the past became gf's and told me that those first dates drove them crazy! They had no idea if I was interested or not. Also everyone of them raved about how great our first kiss was later on. They were literally dying for it.
^ Follow this, to the tee. This guy knows his stuff. Repped.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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