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You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

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First Date: Café or Café & Bar

bangoker

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hey, im gonna go on a first date with this girl, and im thinking bw 2 places to take, on is a really nice lounge café, (Central Perk like) and another is Hippo's which is pretty much also a café, but like 90% of the drinks include some alcohol.

i now the chick does drinks, (not like alcoholic, but she isnt "NO ALCOHOL EVER"-like)

both places are nice and comfortable, which would be better?
 

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Originally posted by bangoker
hey, im gonna go on a first date with this girl, and im thinking bw 2 places to take, on is a really nice lounge café, (Central Perk like) and another is Hippo's which is pretty much also a café, but like 90% of the drinks include some alcohol.

i now the chick does drinks, (not like alcoholic, but she isnt "NO ALCOHOL EVER"-like)

both places are nice and comfortable, which would be better?
where did you meet her, is she more a good girl, or more of a baaaaad girl.
for former go to a for latter go to b.
 

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This is a pointless question.

Take her to church...take her to Chuck E Cheeses..take her to the Las Vegas porn convention...

When will ya learn that it has little to do where you take the girl..and MORE to do with how you make her feel when she is with you.

Cafe or Cafe with alcohol? WTF...this is the most stupid question.

More importantly, PLAN THE WHOLE THING. Nothing is worse for a girl on a date than a man that doesn't have a plan on where he is taking her.

Women hate guys that ask "sooo uhhhh waddahh you wanna do?"

Be excited about the date rather than worrying about where it will be. And MAKE HER EXCITED ABOUT IT!

"Yea...I'm going to pick you up at 6..we'll hit the comedy club at 7 and swing by Hippo's Cafe lounge around 9ish for some coffee and drink...oh yea..they have this awesome cheesecake dessert...four layers of double chocolate!! "

Man with a plan!
 

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Cafe bar

I'd go for the cafe bar. Despite what some on this board say, I think a few drinks or a little liquor make things a little more exciting, and relaxing.

I'd go to the bar. You'd also seem a little more edgier than the guy who does the regular cafe thing.
 
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I like doing the coffee shop then to a bar then to my place. Works everytime! Over coffee I do C&F. At the bar I start kino and will kiss close as you heads call it...then to my place to fawk close.

So far I haven't had one problem with this system.
 

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