Finally giving up on the dating market

[Solomon]

It's similarly difficult to break into the film industry, if you're not a textbook Nepo Baby with an Ivy League MFA, a former child star, or a Marlon Brando-esque savant. So, you've got options:

-Choose another career, never look back

-Hang around Reddit and dive bars, griping over the unfairness of these circumstances

-Do what 98% of everyone who's "made it" in The Biz has done, since times immemorial... Find very basic work in film(being a PA, building sets, pulling lighting, etc etc), becoming well-versed in the craft, learning how to enhance your personal charm and magnetism, etc etc

Same's true of dating and mating. MOST people DO NOT start out with immense advantages in life. We all have to build upon whatever talents we have + Add new ones whenever practical. In OP's case, he can easily throw lifts in his sneakers and learn to dress taller

Exactly there is always a "workaround" at some point you don't take a chance limited beliefs will swallow you up in confirmation biased and you'll be miserable.

Our ancerstors understood this

 

[BaronOfHair]

Our ancerstors understood this

Most folks STILL inherently understand the basic principles you describe:

"Life, in many ways, is unfair for us all sometimes. So what? Get on with the process of creating a rich, vibrant life for yourself, despite the universe's imperfections. No one, except perhaps your shrink, is especially eager to hear you whinge at length about your pain"

Social media has just given us folks in The Post-Industrial West a forum to endlessly fantasize about how soft and hassle-free life COULD be, if only we could turn the planet into a Utopia once and for all. The fact that centuries worth of efforts at such a thing(Creating a utopia, that is)have all ended diasterously hasn't deterred us from retreating into less-than-childish daydreams such as these

 

[forcerecon01]

30 dates this year ? You've not banged any of them ?

Like seriously what are you doing on these dates?

Are you even trying to have s3x with them!

I was thinking the same thing

 

[Clockwerk50]

After going through OP's post history it's now clear to me why he's struggling, he does the "Nice guy" game you know taking women on 6 dates in hopes of clapping cheeks and spinning her into a plate meanwhile the women have told OP they are looking for an LTR.
OP has to fix his fundamentals and really be honest with what he wants, when you lie to yourself with what you want from a woman the are the outcomes (this post)

He’s been a member since 2014. Somewhere along the way, he either ignored the core material or didn’t apply the advice given here. Either he failed SoSuave or SoSuave failed him.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

He’s been a member since 2014. Somewhere along the way, he either ignored the core material or didn’t apply the advice given here. Either he failed SoSuave or SoSuave failed him.

Most likely the former based on how often this stuff seems to happen with long time members.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink.

 

[BaronOfHair]

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink.

Frequently enough, it's far more humane to put such creatures out of their misery

 

[jhonny9546]

These are the men you'll find as "popular" among women.

 

[Solomon]

These are the men you'll find as "popular" among women.

There is a niche for every type. If you are a gamer there some hot nerdy girls who are into gaming and anime
If you're into art there are some hot artsy chicks etc
I just saw a stream with Ishowspeed in Greece over 125K people watching, being in nerdy/dorky in 2025 is cool

 

[jhonny9546]

There is a niche for every type. If you are a gamer there some hot nerdy girls who are into gaming and anime
If you're into art there are some hot artsy chicks etc
I just saw a stream with Ishowspeed in Greece over 125K people watching, being in nerdy/dorky in 2025 is cool

Yes that's correct. But forget being nerdy, just for an instance.
Look at those guys, and how they behave.

 

[Gamisch]

Most likely the former based on how often this stuff seems to happen with long time members.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink.

Op is like most of my friends (basically like 95% of modern males). He only wants 1 thing: a gf to show off to the world so she can proof how manly he is.

It's pointless to "teach him " theory because he will forget about it as soon as you put a woman in front of him.

And the irony is women collectively deteste this type of man!!

30 dated zero result. 30 x 100 bucks at least = 3 k wasted on nothing. At least. I'm sure the total expenses are WAy higher because at least 5 women were "the one" so OP went all out playing the provider/ pay pig role spending at least 250 including or excluding gas money ect.

Men like OP will eventually find one who'll take them to the cleaners. And he'll go voluntary to the gulags.

Like most dudes I ever knew. A dead bedroom with a cranky witch disrespecting him on a daily. But hey, you got some flex photos for the gram!!

 

[Solomon]

Yes that's correct. But forget being nerdy, just for an instance.
Look at those guys, and how they behave.

Ishowspeed is 20 when I was 20 I wasn't doing the crap he was doing but my friends and I sure as hell weren't mature
I don't agree with his takes but I do enjoy seeing a young travel the world and being successful it's surreal to see how streamers are just as big as actors and musicians now

 

[Borknagar]

Hello, just wanted to share my current situation. This year was really bad so far. I had a lot of dates (about 30) and nothing came out of it. It was always the same: Went out on one or more dates then got rejected finally. Of course you can say bad game, bad attitude or something else but in my opinion I was acting just normal, I was just me. And just me is not enough for women or is not what women want. I am a normal, not bad looking guy with respect for other people, I have a good heart and treat people like I want them to treat me. But that also means no drama for women. I am not what they are craving, the most of them: A guy who gives them drama and makes their hamster spin. This is not me and I also don't want to be like that. I was acting like that in the past and it got me some lays but it became too stressfull to act like that. I don't believe in love from women anyway. From now on I think I will just pay for 6 and I think it will make me more happy than going on dates, spending my money and get nothing out of it, because I am how I am.. Sad but true.

Regards
summersky

At 46 I haven't given up, I'm just not caring much. Plus I have literally zero exposure to women i'd want anyway.

 

[Borknagar]

This is 95% of the problem the OP has.



He has had sex with 101 women. Lets say he started at 21. 101 women / 10 years = 10 women / year.

52 weeks / 10 women = 5.2 weeks. So from 2015 to 2025, he has slept with a different women every 5 weeks.

Impressive.



I'll give you upper tier looks.

I won't give you "make women feel good and sexy in interactions"

When a man has upper tier looks, anything he says doesn't really matter because the women wants to get pregnant from him. Now if she is older and has trouble getting pregnant, then I'll give make women feel good and sexy interactions. Even then its not really logical because older women want money.

If a man is short and doesn't look good, anything he says to a woman to make her good and sexy will be considered creepy.

I did about 50 or so in 2 years once.

 

[SW15]

I did about 50 or so in 2 years once.

That's an excellent 2 year period.

 

[Stephen89]

That is amazing stats bud. Some people may be envious of that.

Keep going, keep persevering.

 

[Borknagar]

That's an excellent 2 year period.

Oh yeah, now it's been a year and a half since anything lol

 

[Desdinova]

Went out on one or more dates then got rejected finally. Of course you can say bad game, bad attitude or something else but in my opinion I was acting just normal, I was just me. And just me is not enough for women or is not what women want.

The first date is where you really sell yourself. If you're not positive, excited, interesting nor funny, then you're a waste of time. Giving into "that's just how I am" is avoiding taking responsibility for your weaknesses. Find your 5hitty qualities and work on fixing them. Once you fix your 5hittiest qualities, THEN you can "just be yourself" because you're going to be naturally positive, excited, interesting and funny.

 

[MatureDJ]

Exactly there is always a "workaround" at some point you don't take a chance limited beliefs will swallow you up in confirmation biased and you'll be miserable.

Our ancerstors understood this

I really think that the caveman walking around clubbing women on the head is not just a faux-historical meme, but that really happened. These CavemanCels were able to get away with r&pe.