"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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"Field Reports" instead of "Success Stories"

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Hello, Allen.

Here is an observation you might consider. Having a forum called the Success Stories Forum may inhibit some people from posting there because they may be unsure as to whether to view a particular field outing as a success. In reality, every approach is a success and should be interpreted as such.

I think renaming the forum that is now called "Success Stories" to be called "Field Reports" would do several things.

a) It would encourage members of the board to go into the field, which is where real lessons are learned.

b) It would make for more activity in that forum.

c) Improve the overall content of the forum.

Having real world situations to base thoughts on would make for better discussions here. It would also discourage ill-considered or parrotted advice.

One could argue that the kinds of posts I am talking about could be posted in the main discussion forum, but I think this would be better because having a forum called "field reports" is going to make people WANT to post there, therefore making them get their face out of the screen and approach. Instead having it called "success stories" makes them insecure about their success or lack thereof and intimidates them.

Anyway, think about it.


Nick

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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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i agree
 

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i agree
 

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This is a good suggestion and I've been thinking about it. (And bonus points for originality.)

I don't want to pull all the "good stuff" out of the main forum though. We've already pulled out tips and success stories... although the SS forum is a little too slow to be considered a success itself.

Feel free to reply with your thoughts on this suggestion.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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trickynick

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Originally posted by sosuave.com:
This is a good suggestion and I've been thinking about it. (And bonus points for originality.)

I don't want to pull all the "good stuff" out of the main forum though. We've already pulled out tips and success stories... although the SS forum is a little too slow to be considered a success itself.

Feel free to reply with your thoughts on this suggestion.
Actually Allen, I think you will be very surprised how much more "good stuff" will be discussed in all the forums on your site once you start encouraging more field activity. The main forum will always be busy, you need not worry about that.

Nick


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ugh

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This is a good suggestion and I've been thinking about it. (And bonus points for originality.)

he got it off the newsgroup at fastseduction.com

[This message has been edited by sneaker (edited 06-10-2002).]
 

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Originally posted by sneaker:
This is a good suggestion and I've been thinking about it. (And bonus points for originality.)

he got it off the newsgroup at fastseduction.com
Where do you think I've been posting lately?


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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Originally posted by trickynick:
Where do you think I've been posting lately?


i like the site alot but im not into the hypnotic seduction at all.
 

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Originally posted by sneaker:
i like the site alot but im not into the hypnotic seduction at all.
It's all worth knowing. Lots of mind blowing applications. I am not massively field experienced with it yet, but I am noticing great responses to blatant applications of it even in casual interactions with women. However I will say that I believe the people who rely too heavily on hypnotic tactics to be guys who have a deep seated feeling of unworthiness of the women they are pursuing and see NLP wizardry as much easier than confronting the much tougher issue of their desparation for the approval of women due to their poor self image.

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good idea
 

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Ya its true hard to define success
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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The success forum has suffered massive failure.

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I brought it up again in the Moderators' Forum. Allen has confirmed that Success Stories is on the way out.

I hope I was allowed to say that!


Whether it will be replaced by Field Reports is another matter. Only Allen has the answers...

De La Soul
 

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Originally posted by De La Soul:
I brought it up again in the Moderators' Forum. Allen has confirmed that Success Stories is on the way out.

I hope I was allowed to say that!


Whether it will be replaced by Field Reports is another matter. Only Allen has the answers...

De La Soul
I was a mod when the success forum was introduced. Seemed like a good idea at the time.

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Success stories is a good idea.... it can still contain them... but it does need to be called 'field reports'

The term 'success stories' is rarely ever used in the forums because, as tricknick says, ALL approaches and experiences should be thought of as successes.

I definitely agree with this course of action. And moving all the best posts wouldn't be a problem, just leave them in the general board, only new posts need go in 'field reports'
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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