"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Female Friends? What would you guys suggest I do in this situation?

nicksaiz65

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This just reeks of the low value orbiter mindset. You are trying to sneak your way into their panties. You come up with all of these excuses and rationalizations: I need friends, everyone's leaving me, it looks bad if I don't have hot female friends, blah blah blah. This is the typical weasely, passive-aggressive, dishonest way of trying to get laid. These guys think if they just "hang around," she'll "slip up" by getting super drunk or otherwise drop her guard and you'll get laid. Guys invest months, even years with this strategy until they give up with nothing to show for it.

Be honest with yourself and save yourself a lot of time and an enormous amount of frustration. Just be straight up with them and go for actual dates (hanging out 1 on 1). If she's down great, if not, you've just saved yourself dozens, hundreds or thousands of hours waiting for her to slip up so you can get laid.

Even if she does slip up and gets drunk while you're waiting hanging out with her one on one at a party, you are just begging for a date rape charge.



Yeah, exactly as I stated: you are lying to yourself and to us. You claim you are ok just being friends with attractive women, yet you say you want to fvck them. Obviously. If you want to fvck them, you're NOT ok just being friends with them. That's why you want to hang with them as "friends." You're friendly enough to be trusted but you're waiting for your chance when she's drunk or high or otherwise compromised when the bar closes or in the wee hours of a party.

If you were actually good looking, you wouldn't have to resort to these sneaky orbiter, take advantage of her when she's wasted game.
I would fvck them but I want a social circle more. If I don't have one I'll have like no friends. That is my number one concern. I'd rather have friends and then cold approach to meet new bytches
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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