"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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ok so like I was saying before this girl is a long term friend but she has a bf which means little to me because she never brings him up when we talk. I dont wanna fall into the surrogate category giving her the attention and doing the bf things he should be doin but I do wanna get that ass. So I have been keeping busy and giving attention when I feel. She has her own spot and she says its cool if I come by and sh!t what Im wondering is how should I play making a move being that if I move too soon I give away the mystery?
 
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Originally posted by MarkHammond
ok so like I was saying before this girl is a long term friend but she has a bf which means little to me because she never brings him up when we talk. I dont wanna fall into the surrogate category giving her the attention and doing the bf things he should be doin but I do wanna get that ass. So I have been keeping busy and giving attention when I feel. She has her own spot and she says its cool if I come by and sh!t what Im wondering is how should I play making a move being that if I move too soon I give away the mystery?
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lol, you havn'et made a mistake, ,at least a foreseeable one yet, that's always good.

However, you over overthinking...


You are taking the being a mystery concept a little to far.

You want to be a mystery as in.. not reveling too much of yourself like a babbling idiot..


However, YOU NEVER WANT YOUR INTENTIONS TO BE A MYSTERY.

EVER.

If you want to date her, and she has a BF, tell her that's cool, and I'll see you at times, but it doesn't change the fact that I still want to bend the fact that I want to bend you over a chair and **** your brains out...

If you stop by her house, MAKE her reject you! She isn't even rejecting you she is just saying she isn't interested at this time..

You have to lay the groundwork for a future reltionaship, and anything you do besides make a move, no matter how much of a "mysterY" you are, wil llead you to LJBF land.
 
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Okay, first off - are you dating her or at least hanging out with her on an one to one basis?

Second, Is her body language/eye contact giving you the go-ahead for any action?

Third, Is her boyfriend smaller than you?

Answer these questions first, and you'll get "the next update."
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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yea we hang out on a one on one basis in fact we planning to go to atlantic city in a few weeks (she has her own money to gamble with)


When we together she laughs alot and we have a good time. she tried to iniate a hug the other day when i picked her up from work she walked to the driver side i guess for a hug but i was too dumb to catch on lol


Yes he is smaller then me and she lives alone I mean he comes over but Im sure when Im there she will have some excuse why he cant that day.


so u think i should make her reject me huh?
 
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i dont know ill just chill with her at ur crib this weekend and depending on the vibe just react
 
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its friday and we supposed to chill later ill take her to a bar or sumthin and just go on the vibe
 
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She is hanging out with you when she has a bf? Wow, she could be trouble Dawg. If she was done with hime that would be one thing, but doing weekend activities with you .. hmmmm
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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this is tough!

I know kidnap her bf and she'll coming running to you for comfort, that way you'll tap that ass like no tomorrow.

But seriously this situation is tough. I'd say the best thing to do is let her see how great of a guy you are. How? well date other women, introduce her to them. Do double dates. It works great to fuel jealousy in women. Show her you're busy and have other important things to do than just bearound her.

you wont achieve anything by not dating anyone. If i were you i'd get off this oneitis.

Better yet give her the ultimatum. Tell her you cant be friends anymore its too hard for you. you might get lucky if she posesses true feelings.
 
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sounds like you know what ur doing. u have a goal and a gameplan to achieve it. too many (unnaturals) go to bed daydreaming of pretty mountains and unicorns hand in hand with some chick.

Girls do the exact same thing (gameplan). they run to their girlfriends who dont have a man. and get advice that seems to come from this site.

i would hit it as long as u dont know her boyfriend. be careful going to her place tho. he might pop up.

as far as making a move. sounds like ur in there if she is inviting u over, i wouldnt worry much about it. Just go over there knowing ur about to get u a lil.
 
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Mark, a girl always knows when a guy wants them - She's giving you buy signals and from what you tell me she isn't really giving you "friendszone" but then again we don't know. You can only know IF you make a move, So make that move to get your answer
 
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