First day of school was not what I expected. I tried to follow the Tim Flawless Natural Method and i tried to pump myself up but I still had approach anxiety. My goal was to talk to some really hot girls(the popular ones) which is not what i would usually do. So I was at lunch with friends of mine and I tried to approach with normal hey watsup im jamal and they responded well but then I didnt know what eles to say...so i ended it. They made weird faces while smiling and I felt like ****. I was at a lunch table with hot girls and since i screwed up I didnt talk for the rest of the period and I was considered low value. I reallly want to bounce back and do better because I want to hangout with them cause they are hot...Im having a tough time continuing the conversation and I know peoples advice is "say wateva" but i realize its harder said than done. Right now I just need help and some motivation for tomorrow cause i dont know what I am going to do.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Feel like ****
- Thread starter Jamal
- Start date
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Think of each individual approach as its own objective. You approach, you talk, you get out... done. Don't let a bad approach hurt your confidence and don't let a good one get you too ****y. There is quite possibly a million reasons why the girls were laughing and smiling. And unless you know how a girl thinks, we will always just have to guess. So stop caring about the outcome.
Think about this. You had the balls to go talk the that hot chick. Hold on to that.
Think about this. You had the balls to go talk the that hot chick. Hold on to that.
Don't worry about the value. You acted like lower value because you think yourself as being lower value and you're still thinking like that since you are so worried what all the other think of you. Ask yourself why?
Read the 'gift of gab' and 'art of gibberish' links in my signature for more about talking to people.
Read the 'gift of gab' and 'art of gibberish' links in my signature for more about talking to people.
The confidence to talk to chicks... Most people are too scared. Even if you think you failed, that's high value, no matter what you think. Now you have thicker skin too... because you went up one level. If you can talk to a bunch of hot chicks, you're not getting easily nervous in, lets say, one to one conversation. So no matter what you think, you won! 
And yes... Say whatever. It's not what you say, it's how you say. "My name is bond... James bond". That may look like a corny sentence, but the way bond says it, sure as hell it's cool! If you said it on a different tone however, people would look at you and be like "Uhh, okay!". So general "rule"... pay attention at the tone, not at anything else! It saves you trobule to look for the right thing too.
Good luck for tommorow!
And yes... Say whatever. It's not what you say, it's how you say. "My name is bond... James bond". That may look like a corny sentence, but the way bond says it, sure as hell it's cool! If you said it on a different tone however, people would look at you and be like "Uhh, okay!". So general "rule"... pay attention at the tone, not at anything else! It saves you trobule to look for the right thing too.
Good luck for tommorow!
LMAO, i can see the experience points flowing into him right now, it's increased his armor, upgraded his charisma, and leveled up his skill in "Gibberish"Groovy said:Now you have thicker skin too... because you went up one level... So no matter what you think, you won!
And yes... Say whatever. It's not what you say, it's how you say. "My name is bond... James bond".
Seriously though, i agree with you 100%, i've said some completely nonsensical things that if you were paying attention you'd want to put a straight jacket on me.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.