Feel Free To Criticize My Texting Game

[Plinco]

If there's anything to learn from you, it's what NOT to do...

After getting a divorce with a woman who had been living with me for four years, I'd been out of the game for that long. I was under a lot of stress after COVID because I had almost lost everything that I worked for up until then. I had been out of the game for years and forgotten how to even talk to people. To make things more challenging, I no longer had a friend circle and lost my youthful appearance. My success with women before then had a lot to do with my situation that I no longer have. I had to learn everything learn (and still learning) everything from the ground up. You mentioned that passing your knowledge on how to be good with women was your motivation for your coaching business; I learned a few things from you too. However learning from basically scratch has been a blessing is disguise.

My motivation for being on this forum is to influence people. I don't like this mentality of where people think that success is beyond their control. I also want to see people become their more developed, independent selves. I want to see people think for themselves and not worship at the alter of some guru.

Recently I demonstrated that practicing open expression changed by mindset sufficiently enough to improve my text communications. That was the whole point. I showed anyone who read that open expression helped me with communication and that just because a woman kisses your feet, doesn't mean you have to like her in if she isn't your type. I gave her as much of a chance as I was willing to give her but she just wasn't my type.

Yet @BPH you had a problem with me rejecting her. Other people here were either amused or curious but you and @retardedautist2020 had a problem with that. That was your problem. I had every right to do what I did. Maybe this was you projecting neediness onto me. I can't answer that, that's why I suggested doing some journal work.

I don't take it personally that you don't follow my advice. Again, I get nothing out of your success or failure.

What annoys me is how often you ASK for my advice, then DON'T take it.

You say I'm not an authority figure, why? Because YOU need to understand the inner workings of my advice before you can take it? Do you need to fully understand how breathing works before you're willing to take in air? Do you need to know that the diaphragm contracts, pulls the rib cage up and outward, expanding your chest to create a vacuum that lowers the pressure in your lungs, during which air is sucked down through the trachea into your lungs?

Or do you just f***ing breathe?

You: "What's 5+5?"
Me: "10"
You: "Got it, so that must mean it's somewhere between 7 and 12"

I've said on this forum that you teach people how to treat you. This level of disrespect I get from you is my fault. I've talked a little bit with you but as you can see I didn't make this clear enough. I think I've slandered you once that I can think of, which was after you said this. How many times have you talked to me like this? At least a few.

Self development requires rational, independent thought. I've asked you a number of times questions like, "what is the essence of maturity?" I didn't get a good answer from you which led me to believe that you don't know the answer. The reason why my approach to how to interact with women and people in general is better than yours is because I seek to understand these concepts in their essence, with using my first hand experience and observations.

You didn't "press" me...I've said time and time again on this forum that I like to sleep with a lot of women because I enjoy the variety without the attachments, difficulties, and obligations of a relationship.

Same thing here. I told you I wanted to help guys who don't have the proper guidance so they wouldn't have to figure it out on their own, the way I had to. You "pressed" me because I guess that wasn't a good enough answer for YOU. You seem to believe I need to have a grand vision, as if I'm going on a crusade to change the world.

What I was looking for was a level of self-understanding and this level of honesty:

EDIT: My "neediness" problem is that I get a little outcome-dependent when I haven't been with anybody new in a while.

For example,

"My live mission is to promote the rational faculty because it is fundamental for human effectiveness."

A corollary of this statement is that as people learn practice their rational faculty, the better they integrate every aspect of themselves and become their own authorities. This is the opposite of your approach.

Here's another,

"I like women who have roughly the maturity of a 20 year old, because that's roughly in line with my relational maturity. My personal development throughout my life had been lopsided where my intellectual self matured faster than my ability to relate to people."

 

[Plinco]

As an armchair psychologist, I can say with 100% certainty that you have Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

And you're 0% qualified to make that assessment.

What's the purpose of your diagnosis? Do you expect anyone to take your opinion seriously? Why don't you count the number of times you or @BPH have slandered me, and how many times I've slandered any of you, and then tell me who has a problem.

Do you think any of the times you've slandered me was constructive? I like a good debate but you have to have a purpose other than just trying to make someone look bad because you don't like their viewpoint.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

After getting a divorce with a woman who had been living with me for four years, I'd been out of the game for that long. I was under a lot of stress after COVID because I had almost lost everything that I worked for up until then. I had been out of the game for years and forgotten how to even talk to people. To make things more challenging, I no longer had a friend circle and lost my youthful appearance. My success with women before then had a lot to do with my situation that I no longer have. I had to learn everything learn (and still learning) everything from the ground up. You mentioned that passing your knowledge on how to be good with women was your motivation for your coaching business; I learned a few things from you too. However learning from basically scratch has been a blessing is disguise.

My motivation for being on this forum is to influence people. I don't like this mentality of where people think that success is beyond their control. I also want to see people become their more developed, independent selves. I want to see people think for themselves and not worship at the alter of some guru.

Recently I demonstrated that practicing open expression changed by mindset sufficiently enough to improve my text communications. That was the whole point. I showed anyone who read that open expression helped me with communication and that just because a woman kisses your feet, doesn't mean you have to like her in if she isn't your type. I gave her as much of a chance as I was willing to give her but she just wasn't my type.

Yet @BPH you had a problem with me rejecting her. Other people here were either amused or curious but you and @retardedautist2020 had a problem with that. That was your problem. I had every right to do what I did. Maybe this was you projecting neediness onto me. I can't answer that, that's why I suggested doing some journal work.



I've said on this forum that you teach people how to treat you. This level of disrespect I get from you is my fault. I've talked a little bit with you but as you can see I didn't make this clear enough. I think I've slandered you once that I can think of, which was after you said this. How many times have you talked to me like this? At least a few.

Self development requires rational, independent thought. I've asked you a number of times questions like, "what is the essence of maturity?" I didn't get a good answer from you which led me to believe that you don't know the answer. The reason why my approach to how to interact with women and people in general is better than yours is because I seek to understand these concepts in their essence, with using my first hand experience and observations.




What I was looking for was a level of self-understanding and this level of honesty:



For example,

"My live mission is to promote the rational faculty because it is fundamental for human effectiveness."

A corollary of this statement is that as people learn practice their rational faculty, the better they integrate every aspect of themselves and become their own authorities. This is the opposite of your approach.

Here's another,

"I like women who have roughly the maturity of a 20 year old, because that's roughly in line with my relational maturity. My personal development throughout my life had been lopsided where my intellectual self matured faster than my ability to relate to people."

That woman must have been a saint to last four years

 

[BPH]

I had to learn everything learn (and still learning) everything from the ground up.

Except you didn't - I literally told you what to do, and you insisted on doing things your way.

I suggested you go out in Orlando because you didn't like your local options. It took you months to make that trip a single time.

I suggested you update your photos and get on the dating apps. You didn't do either of those things while working together, despite the girl from your "I almost got laid tonight" post, as well as this recent girl, are BOTH from dating apps.

You simply do not listen.

My motivation for being on this forum is to influence people. I don't like this mentality of where people think that success is beyond their control. I also want to see people become their more developed, independent selves. I want to see people think for themselves and not worship at the alter of some guru.

Your "example" showcases how much longer it takes to be successful because you are argumentative and would rather have these debates than take the advice that you yourself ask for. I would hope you don't influence the younger guys into being difficult just for the sake of being difficult.

I still remember that conversation we had after you went to the bar for a mere 30 minutes, left early because you supposedly wanted to go to sleep, then proceeded to stay up an extra hour and a half with me to talk about it...instead of, you know, staying out later as I'd advised.

Yet @BPH you had a problem with me rejecting her.

I and others had a problem with you rejecting her because you were obviously interested enough to have that text conversation that you showed us, yet you chose not to see her simply because she didn't want to do your stupid dancing bull**** - she actually wanted to grab drinks and probably f***.

And you could've done that for more than 10 seconds, like your most recent girl.

It would be like if I declined $1,000,000 because it would've been too inconvenient for me to drive 15 minutes and pick it up. You SUPPOSEDLY want to be successful with women, but when you are offered success, you discard it.

So we're here reading this, wondering why the hell we're trying to help you when it seems you don't care to achieve the goal you're asking us how to reach.

I think I've slandered you once that I can think of, which was after you said this. How many times have you talked to me like this? At least a few.

Slander means I've made false, damaging statements. None of my statements have been false. Thinking that you're being ridiculous is not slander.

The reason why my approach to how to interact with women and people in general is better than yours is because I seek to understand these concepts in their essence, with using my first hand experience and observations.

I don't think a single person on this forum would agree that your approach is better than mine. You are discarding interested women because they don't want to dance...and because you feel treated like an "object" even though you're the one who led the conversation in that direction...

What I was looking for was a level of self-understanding and this level of honesty:

For example,

"My live mission is to promote the rational faculty because it is fundamental for human effectiveness."

A corollary of this statement is that as people learn practice their rational faculty, the better they integrate every aspect of themselves and become their own authorities. This is the opposite of your approach.

Look how much of a word salad this is...

Why do YOU need to understand ME for YOU to be successful? When you look at a dumbbell, do you need to understand its life mission and development cycle? No - you just need to use it.

Not everything needs to be so f***ing deep, and I ultimately think that's your problem.

"I like women who have roughly the maturity of a 20 year old, because that's roughly in line with my relational maturity. My personal development throughout my life had been lopsided where my intellectual self matured faster than my ability to relate to people."

This is just an excuse, and one that's going to get you in trouble as you continue to age. Most men prefer younger women, but most men also prefer a woman who's not so young that they have to check her ID.

I had a member message me suggesting I not bother replying to you since you're beyond being helped, clearly. As I mentioned before, I don't dislike you personally and would prefer you succeed...but you are a bad example for younger guys to follow, and the public nature of this forum allows, and almost requires, us to call that out.

I believe your problem is ultimately this: You don't want to listen to advice because you don't actually want to be successful unless it's YOUR ideas that got you there. Then, when you achieve that success, as you did here (momentarily), you get on your high horse and try to frame your failures as wins. Then you come here and debate with those who point out that your failure IS a failure, endlessly.

It'd be great if you broke that cycle. But I don't see it happening.