You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
I don't think it's possible unless you let her know from the start that you won't be her crying pillow. You also have to remind her often that you can escalate at any time.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
There’s different types of friend zoned that I’ve learned about.
we are talking about banging chicks.
That’s what I mean. You have to know which friend zone you’re in to know how to proceed. Sometimes it’s hopeless to even try, other times you can turn chicken **** into chicken salad if you know what you’re doing.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
So if someone allows all the rest but has a long running vaginal restriction then what bs is it?
most of time, you're a dealfish in the water........
Can’t argue with that.
deadfish**
It really is the only way to survive it. They WILL come after you though, most anyways. That’s where it gets tricky. That’s why you need to grab your balls and say “look, I want more with you but you’re unable to offer it and I understand. We can be friends but just know friendship is not my first priority and other girls I’m dating will come before you. You cool with that?”
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Obviously it depends on how you define friendzone.
So what is this "partial friendzone" action? Super orbiter?
I wouldn’t call it FZ.
She wants him to stay in place and amps up the action when new babes try to get him.
Agreed. He’s not completely out of the race. He’s her C-guy. When other babes show interest, he might be upgraded to her B-guy. If he gets mad social proof, maybe one day he could be her A-guy, but that’s a tall order.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
It’s not as hard as you think going from C to A or B to A. The other girl just had to be prettier. You’d be surprised how many girls have friend zoned me thinking I couldn’t do any better, only to blow them out of the water with the next girl who wasn’t about to stick me in the friend zone. I’ve been friend zoned by more average girls than hot girls, it’s weird how it works like that.
what are your go to lines for this?
lol, exactly.
That's a fallacy.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.