"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Long story short my fvck buddy wants a threesome with another girl. She doesn't have any friends that are in the area so we have to go find a random girl. Now we're both fairly young (22) so bringing up the Internet would be weird.

To whoever has been in the same position, should we go out to the bars together looking for a girl? I am not really sure how to approach this.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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SoSuave666 said:
Just be happy she's not asking for a devil's threeway. I used to bang a girl who wanted two dudes. Needless to say when she brought that up I ran away....very fast.
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an old friend of mine brother used to tag team girls with his buddy back in the day. One time i found myself in a position to partake in such activities as he had some slut over his house. I was like, dude, thats not for me. Not interested in being anywhere near a naked dude. LOL.
 
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Great replies so far guys, thanks for all the tips.

I really like your advice on how to get the third girl.
 
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I used to work with a woman HB9 who was going out with my friend. She confessed via email that she wanted to fvck my brains out. Tried everything to tempt me to sh1t on my mate. She even admitted her fantasy was to sleep with two men and get DP'd - this was not said for effect, genuinely wanted it.

She turned up at this pub I was drinking at with another friend one Saturday night, she was dolled up to the max, skin tight dress, looking sexy as fvck. I was pretty drunk and all night she kept whispering to me things like "I want you and your friend to take me to a hotel and fvck me at the same time, but I want you to be the one to fvck my arse."(!!!!!) If you've ever had a the fittest little HB9 wanting to get DP'd by you and throwing every temptation tactic in the world, I can tell you.....it was the hardest thing to say NO to in my life. I definitely would have if she wasn't going out with my mate, but you don't sh1t on your buddies.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Sofomore said:
Long story short my fvck buddy wants a threesome with another girl. She doesn't have any friends that are in the area so we have to go find a random girl. Now we're both fairly young (22) so bringing up the Internet would be weird.

To whoever has been in the same position, should we go out to the bars together looking for a girl? I am not really sure how to approach this.
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OP - here's a solid tactic: dress up nice yourself, get her dressed up slvtty, and go bar/club hopping. Let her strike up conversations with girls. If she's hot, it'll be easy, plus girls are really good at finding out which other girls are bi/dtf. Then you're just the cool pimp who gets to partake.
 
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Ah finally some solid advice! Thank you muscleman and tits.
 
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Yeah, she has to do all the work. The problem with craigslist or swing clubs is that every other couple wants the same thing as you - a chick with no dude attached. The numbers game works against you, and attractive single women who would go for threesomes can take their pick of any woman they want. Typically, such women are in-the-closet lesbians, which is also the reason they are single. You getting to fvck such a girl is certainly possible, but she's going to tolerate it more than be into it. You personally would have the most fun with another girl who rarely does such a thing, but just happened to get drunk enough to go through with it. That kind of girl would be most likely straight, and you would have better sex with her.
 
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Only had one threesome and both the girls were already friends that I both knew and already banged. Getting them to 3way was pretty easy. I think it's a lot better and fun if you all know each other rather being strangers.

A lot of guys on this forum can't even get one girl.. so if you can get two props to you my man.

-Scars
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Scars said:
Only had one threesome and both the girls were already friends that I both knew and already banged. Getting them to 3way was pretty easy. I think it's a lot better and fun if you all know each other rather being strangers.

A lot of guys on this forum can't even get one girl.. so if you can get two props to you my man.

-Scars
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truth. I have tried and gotten oh so close to a random 3 some ( 2 girls), but realize how difficult it is to pull off. Props to those who can.
 
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A chick I'm banging suggested getting a hooker to fulfil her angels threesome fantasy. Said she really wants to watch me fvck another chick.
I said "fvck that, just get one of your friends!"
But she wants it to be a stranger.
I won't be getting a hooker with her but it might be an option for you, OP?
 
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