"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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im trying hard not to fall for an FB, in my previous thread i got some good advice on this matter, but what are some good ways of staying emotionally detached from somebody that you are intimate with, share everything with, and see very often..

i realized that im falling for her when i saw her with another guy, i broke off contact with her for a little bit, until she managed to reach me, crying and saying how much she needs me and how she didnt think it would hurt me etc...

i know i need to stay detached (if i want to continue the FB situation) or to just end the whole thing...

thanks for any input
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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That sux you saw her with someone else. You may not be falling for her, but being territorial. I dont wanna see my FB's with anyone else, or even hear about it for that matter. Even though Im not attached, I dont wanna know about them and anyone else, and it does bother me. Its a man thing.

im trying hard not to fall for an FB, in my previous thread i got some good advice on this matter, but what are some good ways of staying emotionally detached from somebody that you are intimate with, share everything with, and see very often..

If you "share everything with, and see very often," its more than an FB thing.
You two need to have a talk, cuz she might want more too, if she was crying over you.
 

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agree with meet other woman. i say she's trouble. maby give it a week to see wut happens. but if she goes out with other guys all the time and is a flirt then **** it. you dont want the drama in your life. its bad karma
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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sav said:
im trying hard not to fall for an FB, in my previous thread i got some good advice on this matter, but what are some good ways of staying emotionally detached from somebody that you are intimate with, share everything with, and see very often..
Ummm, hate to tell you this but that isn't a FB. You're treating her as a GF and that's why you are falling for her.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Either have the "talk" or meet more chicks. Is she your only FB? Youre not her only one obviously. You're both free to go for other people, so you cant be mad at her, but you have the right to cut off contact too. Or you can downgrade her to Bootycall status, meaning no contact unless your really horny. That should be no more than once, maybe twice a month.
 

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yeah that sounds good.


if you **** all the time, sooner or later one party will usually fall. dont let it be you if she's slutt'n out
 

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yeah well i got one of those after me ^^^

sucks balls
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Ummm, hate to tell you this but that isn't a FB. You're treating her as a GF and that's why you are falling for her.
Bingo! We have a winner!
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Formidable Bachelor:up:

FB is only there for sex. You spend time with her, and after you nut you get out the door. More strings than that and you are in the trap, taking her to dinner putting clothes on her back.

I should be a musician!
 

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i have no problem meeting other women, i go out on dates all the time ... lately i have a diminished desire to see other women (other then her).

i'll have a serious chat with her, depending on how that goes, she's either out of my life, or fully in it...

thanks for the advice fella's... appreciate it..
 

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I came in her thinking the thread title was "Falling for a fat *****" LOL

Instead of HB
 

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I recently had a **** buddy, really hot chick... one of those bar chicks that seem to be connected to the scene, bar owners, promotion companies, etc... anyways, smoking hot, but I knew her M.O. , she's promiscious, she thinks she's really manipulative, but if you aren't putting that ***** on a pedestal her games crumble faaast lol... ANYWAYS..

She was giving me the "I really with you would call me more often, and come to my house!" or... "I don't want a boyfriend, you know, just someone that calls me and comes to my house, you know?" lol... The situation was great for me.. she'd call me nightly and come to my house to get banged the fvck out.. I even spent like 20 minutes on the phone arguing with her cause i was busy and didn't want to bone her one night... anyways... she gave me that ultimatum... and I peaced!

I stopped calling, I chilled... even when it was happening i gave her ice when she gave me emotions, learned her that she wasn't LTR material for me... she eventually stopped calling lol.... and you know what happened???

this ended in november

recently she MSN's me talking about how she wants to hook up and all that (games), i tell her to cut the BS and state her intentions, she tells me she has a new guy but shes always thinking about me etc and she realyl liked me when we were hooking up.... I tell her straight up i wasn't looking for a rltshp in nov, she gets all upset..

fvck her, she's a peice of a$$ and thats how I will always treat her

bottom line is... it's not a Fvck BUDDY if you are "intimate" and not in the sexual sense, in that emotional sense... you have to have ICE game to make sure you aren't leading these birds on, or just be honest... or you can be a d!ck and lie your face off and end up really hurting someone
 

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Hey Sav

I agree with woods. You should talk to her.

But first you should sit down and think what you really want.

Good luck bro.

JJ
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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