"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Face or Body?

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I'm curious. What would you rather have in a woman if you had to choose?

a) A really nice face and below average body or,

b)A really nice body and below average face?

We all know that we would like to have an attractive woman (face and body). The obvious answer therefore is a combination of the two. But, let's assume there are no other options, which of the above would you CHOOSE if you had too and why? Forget about personality for the time being. Should get some interesting responses to this question. Let r rip.....
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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For a one time thing I would pick the body. For a relationship I'll pick face and take her to the gym with me lol :D
 

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For ONS, good bod. For longer term, great attitude with a good enough body and the prettiest face I can find.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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at this moment in time all i care about is body. for relationships deffo face
 

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plus usually the hotter chicks cant bone that good cuz they're so used to so many symps bowing down to them that they never feel the need to work at it
 

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That's like asking would you rather have a skinny girl with zits or a fat girl with a clear complection.
 
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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maqnetik said:
im not into "average" anything, let alone sub-par.

:D
Hear ya. I was just saying if you had no other choices and had to take one over the other. As for me, I'd choose the bod.
 

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Body. Face is only a small percentage of the total package.
 

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maqnetik said:
a face is god-given (without make-up) but a body requires work. its a reflection of her character.

:rolleyes:
Not really. I know a girl with the most perfect body in the universe and her face is a 7 at best. She's never worked out a day in her life and eats horribly.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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maqnetik said:
it wont last-- and i can tell the difference between lucky and hard work

:cool:
I think it will last. She just doesn't need to work at it, its just natural. She's 86lbs, and she's never been over 90 in her life. (she's 5'3")
 

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maqnetik said:
it wont last-- and i can tell the difference between lucky and hard work
If anything I'd say that's backwards. Some people are just born slim and pretty, and there's a lot better odds the genetic blessing will last as opposed to hitting the gym.

For the rest of this convo, I and most guys have a threshold that women have to reach, or a series really. She has to be ______ before I'd consider _____. Simple, no magic. If she's cuter that she needs to be, then that's a plus but it just goes in with the other pluses and minuses, like character or fitness.
 

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Tighten_Up said:
I think it will last. She just doesn't need to work at it, its just natural. She's 86lbs, and she's never been over 90 in her life. (she's 5'3")
that doesnt sound attractive at all (no offense).... and how old is she? it takes a while for muscle tone to go flabby from self-abuse and disuse. the hottest girls are high maintennance, dont EVER let them fool you

:crazy:
 

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maqnetik said:
that doesnt sound attractive at all (no offense).... and how old is she? it takes a while for muscle tone to go flabby from self-abuse and disuse. the hottest girls are high maintennance, dont EVER let them fool you

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She's 21...and very attractive. She has curves. She has amazing tits and an amazing ass. She has done a lot of work as a model, been in a couple videos, did a tv commercial. Her body is so great that it's easy to ignore her face.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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