"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Face or Body?

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I'm curious. What would you rather have in a woman if you had to choose?

a) A really nice face and below average body or,

b)A really nice body and below average face?

We all know that we would like to have an attractive woman (face and body). The obvious answer therefore is a combination of the two. But, let's assume there are no other options, which of the above would you CHOOSE if you had too and why? Forget about personality for the time being. Should get some interesting responses to this question. Let r rip.....
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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For a one time thing I would pick the body. For a relationship I'll pick face and take her to the gym with me lol :D
 

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For ONS, good bod. For longer term, great attitude with a good enough body and the prettiest face I can find.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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at this moment in time all i care about is body. for relationships deffo face
 

joe henny

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plus usually the hotter chicks cant bone that good cuz they're so used to so many symps bowing down to them that they never feel the need to work at it
 

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That's like asking would you rather have a skinny girl with zits or a fat girl with a clear complection.
 
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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maqnetik said:
im not into "average" anything, let alone sub-par.

:D
Hear ya. I was just saying if you had no other choices and had to take one over the other. As for me, I'd choose the bod.
 

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Body. Face is only a small percentage of the total package.
 

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maqnetik said:
a face is god-given (without make-up) but a body requires work. its a reflection of her character.

:rolleyes:
Not really. I know a girl with the most perfect body in the universe and her face is a 7 at best. She's never worked out a day in her life and eats horribly.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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maqnetik said:
it wont last-- and i can tell the difference between lucky and hard work

:cool:
I think it will last. She just doesn't need to work at it, its just natural. She's 86lbs, and she's never been over 90 in her life. (she's 5'3")
 

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maqnetik said:
it wont last-- and i can tell the difference between lucky and hard work
If anything I'd say that's backwards. Some people are just born slim and pretty, and there's a lot better odds the genetic blessing will last as opposed to hitting the gym.

For the rest of this convo, I and most guys have a threshold that women have to reach, or a series really. She has to be ______ before I'd consider _____. Simple, no magic. If she's cuter that she needs to be, then that's a plus but it just goes in with the other pluses and minuses, like character or fitness.
 

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Tighten_Up said:
I think it will last. She just doesn't need to work at it, its just natural. She's 86lbs, and she's never been over 90 in her life. (she's 5'3")
that doesnt sound attractive at all (no offense).... and how old is she? it takes a while for muscle tone to go flabby from self-abuse and disuse. the hottest girls are high maintennance, dont EVER let them fool you

:crazy:
 

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maqnetik said:
that doesnt sound attractive at all (no offense).... and how old is she? it takes a while for muscle tone to go flabby from self-abuse and disuse. the hottest girls are high maintennance, dont EVER let them fool you

:crazy:
She's 21...and very attractive. She has curves. She has amazing tits and an amazing ass. She has done a lot of work as a model, been in a couple videos, did a tv commercial. Her body is so great that it's easy to ignore her face.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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