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Which one is more important?
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Face or Body
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
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The face to me is super important. I would take a pretty face over ass and boobs.
A pretty face and a good personality is what I look for, as long as she isn't overweight.
A pretty face and a good personality is what I look for, as long as she isn't overweight.
T Money
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word to that ntssv.
OfficeSpace
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hot face over hot body.. As long as her body is at least average... Not fat or too skinny..
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Drum&Bass
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I had this same talk with a female friend of mine...A HOT BODY IS WAYY BETTER, you can enjoy a girls body, its something that is real !
Everyone likes a pretty face to look at but imagine a pretty face with a scrawny or overweight body you'll have bad sex but a nice face smiling back at you, plus all you can do is kiss the lips on a face..if you got a pretty face or an ugly face the kissing is all the same..
a tight body can reflect on her life style and her face is something that can't be helped genetically but she can try to improve on it..but imagine a hot face on a smoker that doesn't eat or exercise properly and just has a rotting corpse of a physique, thats a huge turnoff.
Of course if your thinking about what your kids will look like your gonna want the total package, but if you had to choose one or the other, HOT BODY - so/so FACE !
Everyone likes a pretty face to look at but imagine a pretty face with a scrawny or overweight body you'll have bad sex but a nice face smiling back at you, plus all you can do is kiss the lips on a face..if you got a pretty face or an ugly face the kissing is all the same..
a tight body can reflect on her life style and her face is something that can't be helped genetically but she can try to improve on it..but imagine a hot face on a smoker that doesn't eat or exercise properly and just has a rotting corpse of a physique, thats a huge turnoff.
Of course if your thinking about what your kids will look like your gonna want the total package, but if you had to choose one or the other, HOT BODY - so/so FACE !
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I used to think that it was face. But I find myself more attracted lately to girls with nice bodies as long as her face is alright. Especially as it gets warmer and they wear less clothes.
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i always thought the face is more important, coz it's the part of the body that i get to see in most part of the day, while her body can be easily concealed by smart fashion sense, custom-made clothes & magic accessories (ie. wonderbra, sillhuoette lingerie, high heels,etc)
after reading some of the posts here, i'm now converted & fully convinced that the body is more important. Coz a well-sculpted body is often the result of a woman's hard work & discipline in her exercise routine & diet regime, which deserve to be appreciated.
'there's no ugly woman, just lazy woman'
after reading some of the posts here, i'm now converted & fully convinced that the body is more important. Coz a well-sculpted body is often the result of a woman's hard work & discipline in her exercise routine & diet regime, which deserve to be appreciated.
'there's no ugly woman, just lazy woman'
MetalFortress
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Hot face. A body is fixable; a face is not.
Le Parisien
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Ok let's clear something up here:
Different guys don't have the same understanding of "decent body".
For most American guys, "decent body" = somewhat overweight, "hot body" = well, hot body...
But for most other people, "hot body" = model look hot body, like tall (5'8+), athletic, long legs, well shaped and sized breasts and azz... "Decent body" = maybe not that tall 5'4 - 5'6, no model's leggy legs, ok sized boobs and azz, but in no way overweight. Otherwise it won't be "decent" body, but unattractive body.
I voted face over body without hesitation. But fatties are NOT even an option.:nono:
Different guys don't have the same understanding of "decent body".
For most American guys, "decent body" = somewhat overweight, "hot body" = well, hot body...
But for most other people, "hot body" = model look hot body, like tall (5'8+), athletic, long legs, well shaped and sized breasts and azz... "Decent body" = maybe not that tall 5'4 - 5'6, no model's leggy legs, ok sized boobs and azz, but in no way overweight. Otherwise it won't be "decent" body, but unattractive body.
I voted face over body without hesitation. But fatties are NOT even an option.:nono:
“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
Francisco d'Anconia
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Gotta have both. No options.
brucevangeorge
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Exactly what I was going to say.MetalFortress said:
Tomatoes
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Where is the both option???
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a girl can lose weight, its hard for them to lose the ugly.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
keoss
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the same as I.MetalFortress said:
REJ-
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it depends what you mean by "decent"
"decent" face = fairly attractive, "hot" face = very attractive
"decent" body = fairly well shaped, "hot" body = very well shaped
To me, there's not much of a difference between "decent" and "hot", so I could even just go with a girl that has "decent" face and body, although I would prefer someone who's "hot"
"decent" face = fairly attractive, "hot" face = very attractive
"decent" body = fairly well shaped, "hot" body = very well shaped
To me, there's not much of a difference between "decent" and "hot", so I could even just go with a girl that has "decent" face and body, although I would prefer someone who's "hot"
girlsarecrazy
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I'm a skin fan. If they have good smooth tan skin... mmmmhhhh
BBX
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I honestly dont care if a girl dosent have the nicest face but to me a nice body is everything. I mean shure theres a limit but as long as shes somewhat cute and has a perfect figure im hooked. My motto is no fatties and no flatties.
PeterNorthisawesome
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Face is more important because that's what most ppl will judge you by. If she has a hot face it's much better! look at Paris Hilton she's pretty but her body is around 6 and she's still popular. Also on the first few dates that's what you'll be kissing or making out with so you better be doing a hot face! Body shape and size can be changed too.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.