"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Explain to me this nonsense

Walk this Way

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Let's consider for a moment one of my best friends - a female. Attractive, still young, a little immature, etc. etc. We talk about everything together, literally EVERYTHING. We grew up together. Now, in my mind, I decided I had no chance quite a long time ago and moved on. Since then, this girl has continued to amaze me, because she constantly gets into relationships with what we here at these boards consider AFCs.

The one right now is the worst. First, I have never seen him offline. NEVER. Even my female friend admitted that he has no life so he spends it in front of the computer. He's unathletic, he's small and skinny and still has a few freckles, and he's not very smart. When I see them meet around on campus, he usually says "me loves you" or she'll be like "wanna hear something?" and he'll say "I ALWAYS want to hear what you have to say". He talks to nobody but her. He's a loser. But her justification is that he's SO nice, that he always apologizes for saying something sexual, that he's so sweet and sooo romantic. *I puke*

Now, it's not like she doesn't know what a MAN is. I play tennis, work out, am extremely ambitious and intelligent, am a great dancer, and my tongue is sharp and witty with tons of innuendo and my conversations with her, frankly, are far more interesting than the conversations she has with him. Of course, I expect nothing from her, but she's always telling me that I should "be more romantic and nice" like him, and that she'd rather go out with a romantic guy than a "bad" guy.

She likes him a lot, and is very physical with him, so her actions correspond with her words. In fact at the movies he said "kiss me i'm irish" and they made out. That's like something I would have done five years ago. It BAFFLES me what she could see in him. And it goes against everything I've seen here. And when I tell her he's so incredibly boring and ordinary, she laughs and says I'm jealous and that . My response: OF WHAT?

What do you guys think? Is she an exception? I can't beieve it!
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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am4591

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I think she likes getting her ass kissed.

So is this guy getting any?
 

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Originally posted by Walk this Way
Let's consider for a moment one of my best friends - a female. Attractive, still young, a little immature, etc. etc. We talk about everything together, literally EVERYTHING. We grew up together. Now, in my mind, I decided I had no chance quite a long time ago and moved on. Since then, this girl has continued to amaze me, because she constantly gets into relationships with what we here at these boards consider AFCs.

The one right now is the worst. First, I have never seen him offline. NEVER. Even my female friend admitted that he has no life so he spends it in front of the computer. He's unathletic, he's small and skinny and still has a few freckles, and he's not very smart. When I see them meet around on campus, he usually says "me loves you" or she'll be like "wanna hear something?" and he'll say "I ALWAYS want to hear what you have to say". He talks to nobody but her. He's a loser. But her justification is that he's SO nice, that he always apologizes for saying something sexual, that he's so sweet and sooo romantic. *I puke*

Now, it's not like she doesn't know what a MAN is. I play tennis, work out, am extremely ambitious and intelligent, am a great dancer, and my tongue is sharp and witty with tons of innuendo and my conversations with her, frankly, are far more interesting than the conversations she has with him. Of course, I expect nothing from her, but she's always telling me that I should "be more romantic and nice" like him, and that she'd rather go out with a romantic guy than a "bad" guy.

She likes him a lot, and is very physical with him, so her actions correspond with her words. In fact at the movies he said "kiss me i'm irish" and they made out. That's like something I would have done five years ago. It BAFFLES me what she could see in him. And it goes against everything I've seen here. And when I tell her he's so incredibly boring and ordinary, she laughs and says I'm jealous and that . My response: OF WHAT?

What do you guys think? Is she an exception? I can't beieve it!
Who is bull chitting who here? Men and women are NOT best freinds... one of the two of you has romantic interest. Dont tell me otherwise either. My guess is from reading your words you are the one with the interest. I think you want to fvck this chick and she isnt interested and it pisses you off. I dont care how strong your game is... if you aint her type, your game isnt going to matter squat. Anyone who thinks differently DOESNT GET IT.

Bottom line... you say he is "he's so incredibly boring and ordinary, she laughs and says I'm jealous and that." SHE IS RIGHT.

If she is really just a friend then WHY DO YOU GIVE A RATZ aZZ? You got a bad case of oneitis and SHE KNOWS IT. Why do you care what she sees in him? It doesnt sound like he treats her poorly or abuses her so ITS NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS.
 

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Who is bull chitting who here? Men and women are NOT best freinds... one of the two of you has romantic interest.
Uh...NO
 

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Uh... YES

You want it so bad you can't see straight, and the fact the she is giving you subtle hints like "I prefer nice guys over bad guys" and that "you should be more nice", Idicates she does too. You can have her, but you'l have to change for her. And she knows you want her too, her actions prove that.

NO my /-\ss!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Walk this Way

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I don't want her. I can and have done better than what she can ever offer me. But I want to know why because what appeals to one woman may appeal to them all.

And RabidDog, I was not the one who said "uhhh...NO", that was Porky, but the answer is no, I feel nothing for her. I've known her for over a decade, she's still eight years old in my mind playing with me in the park.
 
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