judoguy
Don Juan
so what is the next move now that we are hanging on sunday? dont contact her until saturday night or something? i feel like she is gonna forget about me and flake if i do not talk to her until saturday...?
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
judoguy said:so what is the next move now that we are hanging on sunday? dont contact her until saturday night or something? i feel like she is gonna forget about me and flake if i do not talk to her until saturday...?
Think negatively and you'll attract negative energy.judoguy said:well i didnt text her at all yesterday and she didnt text me at all... so i have a feeling sunday will be a flake
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Yep.Kailex said:Just wait til Sunday and stop jumping to conclusions before anything has happened.
You spoke about too much with her and left basically no mystery. You need a hobby. And not just pining after ONE girl. With the way you're going she's going to think you will smother her. I used to talk way too much to women myself in the beginning. It starts to actually kill attraction.judoguy said:well you are right on most normal circumstances, people would not talk everyday. However, me and this girl have been exchanging up to 40 text messages a day just getting to know each other talking about everything, our pasts, culture, politics , religion etc. and also talking on the phone for a few hours
going from that to basically no contact is kind of weird.... but I am goign to stick to my guns and we'll see what happens. It is alot easier to "not care" when I am out at night as oppossed to just sitting at my computer bored at work or watching tv. I am bored so i want to something to do and want to talk to her
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
judoguy said:I highly disagree. I do not think it is a good idea to just call her up and ask her out. If you do this... she will be afraid of you being a "creeper" and overly aggressive and flake on the date.
I think the best case is to talk on the phone about 20 - 30 minute phone converstations 3x and then find her schedule out and ask her out then.
getting her number form POF, then calling her and asking her on a date immediately is a bad idea
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.