"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Experience with a married mom

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I went to a music event this past Saturday and ran into a chick. We started making out, she told me that she wanted to chill after the event, so we went to a bar. Later on, we ended up in her car and the following conversation ensued--

her: what if I told you that I'm married?
me: I don't mind, you take care of your stuff.
her: you don't care about me, you're treating me like a *****.
me: this is what you signed up for.
her: I'm an emotional person, you're just using me
me: you're enjoying it

after the going back and forth, we had sex and knocked out in her car.

Now my question is.. what was going through her head? she didn't want to feel bad that we were ****ing, that she had to project all these things on me?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I went to a music event this past Saturday and ran into a chick. We started making out, she told me that she wanted to chill after the event, so we went to a bar. Later on, we ended up in her car and the following conversation ensued--

her: what if I told you that I'm married?
me: I don't mind, you take care of your stuff.
her: you don't care about me, you're treating me like a *****.
me: this is what you signed up for.
her: I'm an emotional person, you're just using me
me: you're enjoying it

after the going back and forth, we had sex and knocked out in her car.

Now my question is.. what was going through her head? she didn't want to feel bad that we were ****ing, that she had to project all these things on me?
Music event, bar.... Sounds like drunk logic to me. I wouldn't ponder too long over it.
 

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I have no words for this phenomenon yet, but I'm not surprised one bit by this. Humans do a lot of irrational things, including fvcking someone they shouldn't fvck. What you're asking is how to explain irrationality, I can't.
 

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Yes, she said those things because in her mind, as long as she made it clear that shes married and that "you're just taking advantage of her", she'll have no reason to feel guilty or get in trouble later on.
Yep, her hamster was busy spinning away guilt, fault, motive, and accountability…
The old, it just happened, or he took advantage of me when I was drinking defense. Both are often used in tandem to support each other and enhance believability …
 
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I went to a music event this past Saturday and ran into a chick. We started making out, she told me that she wanted to chill after the event, so we went to a bar. Later on, we ended up in her car and the following conversation ensued--

her: what if I told you that I'm married?
me: I don't mind, you take care of your stuff.
her: you don't care about me, you're treating me like a *****.
me: this is what you signed up for.
her: I'm an emotional person, you're just using me
me: you're enjoying it

after the going back and forth, we had sex and knocked out in her car.

Now my question is.. what was going through her head? she didn't want to feel bad that we were ****ing, that she had to project all these things on me?
I would have just kept quiet and walk away leaving her humiliated.

Plenty of single available women for me 2 fvck.
 

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I told her that the next time I saw her (if it happens), I wanted to see her wearing a mini skirt and black heels. :p:cool:
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Damn, the last thing I wanted her was to text me this weekend and she did just that a couple of minutes ago..
 

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I have no words for this phenomenon yet, but I'm not surprised one bit by this. Humans do a lot of irrational things, including fvcking someone they shouldn't fvck. What you're asking is how to explain irrationality, I can't.
I can. But there’s far too many variables to where you could write a whole research paper on the topic and I don’t have the verbal skills to really explain it either.
 

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Later on, we ended up in her car and the following conversation ensued--

her: what if I told you that I'm married?
me: I don't mind, you take care of your stuff.
her: you don't care about me, you're treating me like a *****.
me: this is what you signed up for.
her: I'm an emotional person, you're just using me
me: you're enjoying it

after the going back and forth, we had sex and knocked out in her car.

Now my question is.. what was going through her head?
I’m wondering what you were thinking?


her: what if I told you that I took vows in front of 1000 friends and family that I will love and cherish my 6’1 husband in sickness and in health forever and forever. I knowingly signed a marriage contract with him and we are legally financially morally emotionally and sexually responsible for each other for the rest of our lives.

And your response is;

‘’I don't mind?’’

Wow!
 

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Yep, her hamster was busy spinning away guilt, fault, motive, and accountability…
The old, it just happened, or he took advantage of me when I was drinking defense. Both are often used in tandem to support each other and enhance believability …
He refused to take responsibility for her actions so she finally stopped trying and did what she wanted in the end
 

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I’m wondering what you were thinking?


her: what if I told you that I took vows in front of 1000 friends and family that I will love and cherish my 6’1 husband in sickness and in health forever and forever. I knowingly signed a marriage contract with him and we are legally financially morally emotionally and sexually responsible for each other for the rest of our lives.

And your response is;

‘’I don't mind?’’

Wow!
Actions not words. We all know females words are near meaningless.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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He refused to take responsibility for her actions so she finally stopped trying and did what she wanted in the end
Yep, he didn’t, so she mentally manufactured her own plausible deniability if she got caught.
 
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