"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Escaping the Friend-Zone

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Lately, I've just been making lots of friends with all types of people. I have a few girls that I like to fool around with, however I have a few friends that I want to get into an actual relationship with. I've never attempted to pull one from the friend-zone to the romantic-zone, as I always kept the two seperated. So, any and all advice is wanted.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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WhAcKeD!

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I would go on a date with some, have like hella fun with them, such as bowling or mini golf, prove to them how fun you are, and definetely use kino to your advantage, and then break off contact with them, youll be surprised of the affects it has on them when they realize that a fun part of their life is gone and they want it back, reverse the roles play hard to get :)
 

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What you do not wanna do is to get the friend relationship completely established. That kills all chances of a quick fling or some nice hot fun. Talk to em often, but you still want to give the overall impression of the boy she would not wanna take home to mommy. Just like us, girls seperate guys into two categories - the ones they fuck and the ones they talk to.
 

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Senor Fingers posted an excelent post on this in the tips forum. His name might have also been Mr.Fingers. I encourage you to read it because it truly is amazing .
 

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I'm pretty sure that there are parts in the bible that cover this topic extensively...I would recommend perusing it for answers, as you will most likely get a more complete answer to your problem anyway.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Ace of Spades

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I don't think that it's possible to move beyond being friends.

Here's what happened to me lately:

I asked my best friend's good female friend to prom, and (naturally) she accepted. Then, two days later, he tells me he wants to take her out on a date. I figure it's no big deal, because it won't work anyways, you can't move beyond LJBF.

Long story short, he takes her out, she feels uncomfortable and doesn't wanna lose her "pal", and they haven't spoken since.

I also read this hillarious parody on the two ladders women have with men. One is simply for friends, the other for potential mates. I forgot the name of it, but I'll post the URL if I come across it.
 

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Ladder Theory

Here is the link you speak of. Interesting stuff, seems fairly accurate.

edit: as the link contains a word that is censored, it won't let me make a direct hyperlink. The site is http://www.intellectualw hores.com/masterladder.html

without the break of course.
 
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