You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
told ya they would start it up ...Wyldfire said:You know you need to knock that sheeit off GG...I knew I shouldn't have joked around with pen.
lol...I don't normally joke around like that for that very reason.penkitten said:told ya they would start it up ...
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monday is 24 and im having jack bauer withdrawls...Wyldfire said:lol...I don't normally joke around like that for that very reason.
Is it Wednesday yet? I'm having Lost withdrawls...freaking show is addictive!
I don't watch that one...Monday is usually study and homework night. The only shows I really watch are American Idol and Lost...and the news.penkitten said:monday is 24 and im having jack bauer withdrawls...
why cant all men be just like jack bauer?
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
was that before or after the operation? all that slicing and dicing just makes me sick. god gave it to you...so keep it!!Wyldfire said:I also didn't really blossom until after I left my ex husband. I was considered "cute" in a tomboyish way when I was 18. It wasn't until closer to 30 when I was consistently referred to as a beautiful woman. Although it might be hard to believe...I was FAR more attractive when I was older. .
I've never had cosmetic surgery, or facelifts or botox or any of that crap. The only thing I would ever even consider doing would be a breast reduction because carrying around 34 DDs for a 5 foot tall woman can cause a bit of back pain. That and it's really hard to find tops that fit right...if the chest fits right the sleeves are a mile too long.sparky0000 said:was that before or after the operation? all that slicing and dicing just makes me sick. god gave it to you...so keep it!!
"but I still think calling someone a sh!tty parent is below the belt"
how about this? if you post on here AND are a parent that qualifies you as a sh!tty one. are we all in agreement on that one?
lul wut?Wyldfire said:MuayThai...you couldn't be more wrong about me or why I am here. I have pointed out many times that a lot of men on here chase after bad women repeatedly because they have this foolish urge to "rescue" them. I personally think doing that is stupid. So are women who chase after men who they think they can "fix" them. I advise people to be smarter about WHO they choose to get involved with. I've instilled those very values in my children as well...which is a big part of why I'm pretty confident that my son has a better shot than most to have a good marriage that lasts, despite being so young. He's got a good girlfriend and she loves him very much. You can see it when they are together. He doesn't feel like he HAS to get married and raise his child...he WANTS to...huge difference between the two.
The butting heads between myself and a couple of other posters ONLY happens because they can't seem to disagree like adults much of the time. I disagree with people all the time and am quite capable of handling disagreement maturely without making things personal. Why do you think it is that some grown men are incapable of having a rational discussion without getting all emotional and making personal attacks?
Knights in Shining Armor belong in fairy tales...and they don't exist in real life...nor should anyone delude themselves that they do. The same applies to Damsels in Distress. People create their own circumstances and must learn to take responsibility for their own mistakes, problems and misery. That's the ONLY way to solve your sheeit. A member of the opposite sex doesn't "complete" you...but they CAN compliment who you already are if you use your brain when you pursue a relationship with someone.
I'd strongly suggest that you spend more time listening to what I have to say and less time listening to those who show their arses at me simply because I happen to have tits. It would certainly give you a clearer picture of what I think and why I'm here than you'll get listening to the other crap.
It is being nice which messes up these men.Being nice to people is NOT what makes a man an "AFC" or causes him not to get the things he wants out of life. It's men who are nice to everyone BUT himself that have the problems.
It's fine to respect women as long as you always respect yourself at least as much too.
If you follow the simple rule of NEVER respecting a member of the opposite sex MORE than you respect yourself you've automatically resolved most of your problems with the opposite sex.
Pook? That you?People create their own circumstances and must learn to take responsibility for their own mistakes, problems and misery. That's the ONLY way to solve your sheeit. A member of the opposite sex doesn't "complete" you...but they CAN compliment who you already are if you use your brain when you pursue a relationship with someone.
Oh lawd.Why would I need an alpha? I AM one...
They also appear in real life, in a wussy spineless form. From what I see it is one of the biggest problems with guys on this site.Knights in Shining Armor belong in fairy tales
3 or 4 posters, most of the time. I happens because like me they don't like what you post, neither do I.The butting heads between myself and a couple of other posters ONLY happens because they can't seem to disagree like adults much of the time.
Maybe use your ignore list and get with the program?MuayThai said:Maybe stop being arrogant and get with the program?
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Hmmm, maybe someone shoud start a "tit size matters" thread....Wyldfire said:lol...I try not to bounce mine...they're so big they could take an eye out.![]()
Why don't you?Vulpine said:Maybe use your ignore list and get with the program?
I respect you as a DJ Vulpine but I will have to be the first to say that I would ignore your titty posts quicker than a heartbeat.Vulpine said:Yeah! And I'll post all up in it about how to use your ignore list.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Francisco d'Anconia said:Hmmm, maybe someone shoud start a "tit size matters" thread....![]()
:crackup:LAWYER said:post of your post talks in circles...
What was to learn? Was I asking for help? No, I was giving a tip. Did you learn anything?LAWYER said:at the end you still havent learnd anything
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.