penkitten
Master Don Juan
i agree however ....Francisco d'Anconia said:
title of the year still goes to A True Fight Story: Skilla Goes Nuts
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Effective use of your ignore list.
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title of the year still goes to A True Fight Story: Skilla Goes Nuts
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Falcon, I give advice based on my own personal experiences...and I include examples. That's my style. It's always been that way and always will be. Yes, sometimes I do come across as being arrogant. To an extent I am. I'm an extremely confident person and sometimes there is a very fine line between confidence and arrogance...yep, I can often be found straddling that line and I'm the first to admit that. I've actually admitted it many times before.
That being said...my comment about being the woman with the strongest personality who posts here is spot on. The other women would almost unanimously agree with that, too. I have a stronger personality than most of the men here as well. Arrogant? Perhaps. Honest? Definitely. I can also see how the way I stand out would bother some men. Most don't have a problem with it, though, because they know that I am being 100% sincere when I say that my purpose here is to HELP them.
I realize that because of my style I do have a bullseye on my back. However, I also believe that I contribute something valuable enough to this site that I should be treated the same way as the guys here. My threads should not be locked simply because someone has a problem with me posting here because I have tits. We all know that's what it's about...it's obvious. If I were a guy I would not be attacked at all. Hell, it's not even the attacks that bother me so much as it is that those who do it get rewarded by getting any thread I start shut down.
I appreciate your honest yet courteous input and I hope I was able to clear up any questions you had.
That being said...my comment about being the woman with the strongest personality who posts here is spot on. The other women would almost unanimously agree with that, too. I have a stronger personality than most of the men here as well. Arrogant? Perhaps. Honest? Definitely. I can also see how the way I stand out would bother some men. Most don't have a problem with it, though, because they know that I am being 100% sincere when I say that my purpose here is to HELP them.
I realize that because of my style I do have a bullseye on my back. However, I also believe that I contribute something valuable enough to this site that I should be treated the same way as the guys here. My threads should not be locked simply because someone has a problem with me posting here because I have tits. We all know that's what it's about...it's obvious. If I were a guy I would not be attacked at all. Hell, it's not even the attacks that bother me so much as it is that those who do it get rewarded by getting any thread I start shut down.
I appreciate your honest yet courteous input and I hope I was able to clear up any questions you had.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
sheesh, i never said arrogant or biotch.Wyldfire said:Heya pen...even though I'm such an arrogant...er confident biotch you know I think you're awesome.
now these guys are going to think we flame each other.
and put us both on their iggy lists.
its nice to see you back sweetie.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
lol...I know...I had just explained that I have the strongest personality out of all the women that post here, which is why I get the strongest reactions. Someone mentioned that I sounded arrogant when I said that...so I made a joke about it to you, since you were the first person beside me with boobies that showed up. Boobies rock! :rockon:penkitten said:
penkitten
Master Don Juan
(o)(o) mine bounce too!!
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
I am a little cranky since I quit smoking. Des did not deserve all of that, but I still think calling someone a sh!tty parent is below the belt. My friends who have kids would consider that the worst possible insult.
It's not a black and white issue. There is a spectrum here, between chauvinism, no respect for women, and feminism, which is too much respect for women. All of us are going to fall at a different place on that spectrum. And what works best will vary with different women, and it will also vary depending upon where you are in life, and what you want out of the interaction. Younger guys who just want to rack up sex partners do well as chauvinists, but when you find a girl that you want to keep around, you will have to give her some respect. This is less than putting her on a pedestal, but more than treating her like just another piece of a55. Respecting a woman is not the same as being a needy wuss.
Also, all bets are off in the bedroom. Even the most respectable woman will like to be treated rough from time to time, but I consider that as merely respecting her wishes!
It's not a black and white issue. There is a spectrum here, between chauvinism, no respect for women, and feminism, which is too much respect for women. All of us are going to fall at a different place on that spectrum. And what works best will vary with different women, and it will also vary depending upon where you are in life, and what you want out of the interaction. Younger guys who just want to rack up sex partners do well as chauvinists, but when you find a girl that you want to keep around, you will have to give her some respect. This is less than putting her on a pedestal, but more than treating her like just another piece of a55. Respecting a woman is not the same as being a needy wuss.
Also, all bets are off in the bedroom. Even the most respectable woman will like to be treated rough from time to time, but I consider that as merely respecting her wishes!
MuayThai...you couldn't be more wrong about me or why I am here. I have pointed out many times that a lot of men on here chase after bad women repeatedly because they have this foolish urge to "rescue" them. I personally think doing that is stupid. So are women who chase after men who they think they can "fix" them. I advise people to be smarter about WHO they choose to get involved with. I've instilled those very values in my children as well...which is a big part of why I'm pretty confident that my son has a better shot than most to have a good marriage that lasts, despite being so young. He's got a good girlfriend and she loves him very much. You can see it when they are together. He doesn't feel like he HAS to get married and raise his child...he WANTS to...huge difference between the two.
The butting heads between myself and a couple of other posters ONLY happens because they can't seem to disagree like adults much of the time. I disagree with people all the time and am quite capable of handling disagreement maturely without making things personal. Why do you think it is that some grown men are incapable of having a rational discussion without getting all emotional and making personal attacks?
Knights in Shining Armor belong in fairy tales...and they don't exist in real life...nor should anyone delude themselves that they do. The same applies to Damsels in Distress. People create their own circumstances and must learn to take responsibility for their own mistakes, problems and misery. That's the ONLY way to solve your sheeit. A member of the opposite sex doesn't "complete" you...but they CAN compliment who you already are if you use your brain when you pursue a relationship with someone.
I'd strongly suggest that you spend more time listening to what I have to say and less time listening to those who show their arses at me simply because I happen to have tits. It would certainly give you a clearer picture of what I think and why I'm here than you'll get listening to the other crap.
The butting heads between myself and a couple of other posters ONLY happens because they can't seem to disagree like adults much of the time. I disagree with people all the time and am quite capable of handling disagreement maturely without making things personal. Why do you think it is that some grown men are incapable of having a rational discussion without getting all emotional and making personal attacks?
Knights in Shining Armor belong in fairy tales...and they don't exist in real life...nor should anyone delude themselves that they do. The same applies to Damsels in Distress. People create their own circumstances and must learn to take responsibility for their own mistakes, problems and misery. That's the ONLY way to solve your sheeit. A member of the opposite sex doesn't "complete" you...but they CAN compliment who you already are if you use your brain when you pursue a relationship with someone.
I'd strongly suggest that you spend more time listening to what I have to say and less time listening to those who show their arses at me simply because I happen to have tits. It would certainly give you a clearer picture of what I think and why I'm here than you'll get listening to the other crap.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I know what you're saying...and I'm genuinely very glad to know that there are at least a few guys on here who are able to think outside of the collective views held here.Bible_Belt said:
I don't need for anyone to tell me that I'm a great parent, because I know that I am. I've really beat the odds with my kids..AND I'm a single mother, so the cards were really stacked against me. None of my kids drink, do drugs or get into trouble with the police. The older ones are 20, 18 and 16. Most two parent families can't say their kids are as good and well behaved as mine. Quite clearly I have done something right. I've set a good example by not drinking or doing drugs or bringing a parade of strange men home. I don't allow substances in my home and the only way I will get involved in a relationship is if a man shares my values and will fit into my family. That's why my best friend and I never got together. We were very much in love with each other...but he had a drug problem and I made it very clear that no matter how much I loved him, I am a parent first and my kids are my responsibility and raising them the way I feel is best comes before anything I may want for myself. He loved and respected me even more for that. I know that it isn't possible to find a better parent than I am, and that is why I know my son will be a great father...because I've shown him how to be.
Congrats on quitting smoking! Good show...
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Is that what all that was about?
I think something that I wrote got misunderstood. I wasn't calling Wyld a 5hitty parent, I was referring to the others who were calling her a bad parent. I know that sometimes my words don't come out through my fingers the way I would want them to
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
ok. Thank you for not flipping out on me like a flipped out on you. Peace.
lol...Des thinks I'm such an amazing parent he asked me to adopt him and be his Mommy! hahaha.Desdinova said:Is that what all that was about?
I think something that I wrote got misunderstood. I wasn't calling Wyld a 5hitty parent, I was referring to the others who were calling her a bad parent. I know that sometimes my words don't come out through my fingers the way I would want them to
I knew you weren't dissing me, Des.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Much of her advice rings hollow after hearing her life story. It seems that her best advice is in her ACTIONS not in her WORDS.
By all accounts, she was an intelligent, great-looking 18 yo redhead who fell passionately in love with - you guessed it - a violent, abusive jerk who didn't respect her. She gave him 3 kids and the prime years of her life before realizing her mistake. At which time she was too old and burdened to be desirable.
So Wyldfire's message about young, attractive women is actually loud and clear. Actions, guys, not words.
I didn't fall in love until after I was divorced...and you posted this same thing on another thread.
I also didn't really blossom until after I left my ex husband. I was considered "cute" in a tomboyish way when I was 18. It wasn't until closer to 30 when I was consistently referred to as a beautiful woman. Although it might be hard to believe...I was FAR more attractive when I was older. I don't have red hair, either...I'm brunette with a touch of auburn.
I also didn't really blossom until after I left my ex husband. I was considered "cute" in a tomboyish way when I was 18. It wasn't until closer to 30 when I was consistently referred to as a beautiful woman. Although it might be hard to believe...I was FAR more attractive when I was older. I don't have red hair, either...I'm brunette with a touch of auburn.
Vulpine
Master Don Juan
I couldn't have asked for a better reason to use your ignore lists. If your screens looked like THIS, threads wouldn't turn into 3 pages of arguments having nothing to do with the original topic.
There is absolutely nothing relevant to the original post beyond post #9.
This thread turned into a retard royal rumble.
There is absolutely nothing relevant to the original post beyond post #9.
This thread turned into a retard royal rumble.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.