"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Man I convinced myself email game was the way to go after i had seduced a few girls and banged em after meeting em in public and then sending emails for a few weeks

Now I wonder if in the cases where they give phone numbers if I'm just not better off talking to them on the phone. At least then I know what they are thinking.

Maybe next time I'll call first, if I don't get em I'll email and then leave it at that.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I'll go ahead and reply to myself and seem a bit crazy but here goes.

In analyzing the girls I did email game on, most of them were the more intelligent type, the ones that could craft full sentences and write entertaining emails.

The party girls types can barely turn on a computer, same with the musician divas.

So maybe those I shouldn't do email with.

It has to be type based.
 

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ive fallen into the email game. its easy to do, you get to take your time and craft a message intended to elicit the response you want.

the only problem with it is that right after you send one, or she sends one, or whatever, right after an email is sent, the person basically moves on with their day and forgets about things. most people aren't great at remembering words, but faces, smells, images, tone of voice, bodies, etc., all those things stick in our head through out the day.

plus, we don't see email as signifying anything. it's easy to send, takes no time or effort, etc., plus in a way its very impersonal, so much of what "you" are isn't capture.

the only way to move thigns forward is with voice or face to face i've found.

J
 

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see I can work the email angle, cause I can be confident and C&f...I guess I have more time to think. Then when I do meet them I already have confidence and know I have them...I don't know why I'm like this I just am. I have a hard time coming up with that confidence when I actually meet someone on the street.
 

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"I'm a shy passive person who is going to use techniques and strategies to get some action from women through instant messaging and email even though I'm really just bullsh!tting in this thread."
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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It does work, but another common denominator on some of the email girls is that they lived far away, or that we were discussing an upcoming event.
 

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e-Mail works for some but not others. I use it to start a convo going but I don't read or put much into it. Though I get annoyed if I don't get a reply, still!

Phone is still a better way to go, if your convo skills are pretty good. You can get her charged up and interested on the phone, before going out. It works better. e-Mail is convenient though...but because of that ya, they go on through their day and forget about the interaction.
 

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Exactly if I don't get a reply in a reasonable time I'm pissed.

And on at least 2 of these occasions, I had the number. So maybe I should have just called them.

Of course I could next week as well. I mean **** if you are getting the response in a few days you can always send a second one as if you didn't realize they didn't reply to the first.
 
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