backseatjuan
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Haha. He's pretty wealthy. The b'tch likes the gifts.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
I mean it seems like she likes him, but I guess its hard to tell if its genuine affection or if she just likes the monetary stuff.backseatjuan said:Haha. He's pretty wealthy. The b'tch likes the gifts.
Why do you care?RustleYourJimmies said:Do girls really fall for this? Theyre 20.
Theyve known each other for a month and apparently they just hit it off right from the start. This dude got on his knee with a Tiffany ring and asked her to be his GF. She said yes and is all happy and whatever.
This just screams beta, why do certain girls fall for this? Every girl of the same age (20) I've asked has said it was desperate and a little pathetic, do some girls just fall for this cheesy stuff?
He's also purchased her $100 sunglasses and taken her out to dinner tons of times to these very nice restaurants (nothing wrong with taking a girl out though I guess)
You think shes out of there once the gifts and stuff stops coming in?
I want an opinion on his gesture, why do you care if I care?mikey2012 said:Why do you care?
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
Exactly.perseverance said:Whatever floats his boat, you may mock him, but he's gotten what he wanted; the girl.
It's not what I'd do, but everyone's different. I get the sense that you seem a little butthurt, not sure why that is if you're just friends?
I don't, beta boy.RustleYourJimmies said:I want an opinion on his gesture, why do you care if I care?
No wonder george clooney doesn't want to get married!SamTheHobit said:Exactly.
Sure thing troll.mikey2012 said:I don't, beta boy.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Any behavior can work. Depends on the girl. Depends on the guy.RustleYourJimmies said:Lol trust me, im not butthurt. I dont care, I'm just curious because I was taught this type of behavior doesnt work
hard to believe you are being serious here. the last part has nothing to do with the DJ idea or even PUA. even the part about opinions is questionable, most of the concepts etc are the result of experience and common patterns. and the first part is not really convincing either.Iceberg said:Any behavior can work. Depends on the girl. Depends on the guy.
Sosuave is opinions. Not facts.
If you listen to sosuave like it's 100% truth, then you'd believe that only 6'5", athletic, rich, ****y&funny douchebags were getting laid. And then you look around your town or city, and what do you see? People of every size, personality, and economic class walking around with a girlfriend on their arm.
If you spend a bunch of money on every woman on Earth as a show of affection, I'm sure you would still get your fair share. There are things out there called gold diggers. He would be getting taken advantage of, but hey, he got the girl. Which is exactly what happened here.flashpoint said:hard to believe you are being serious here. the last part has nothing to do with the DJ idea or even PUA. even the part about opinions is questionable, most of the concepts etc are the result of experience and common patterns. and the first part is not really convincing either.
NO not ANY behavior can work. that is just not true. this is a 20 year old kid with lots of money behind who has no clue or game and the girl he "gets" is also 20 and would be a fool not to accept all the gifts he is giving her. if that ring hasnt been from Tiffanys but something alot cheaper, she would have kicked him to the curb. that is not something that "works", just pure economics. maybe bying broads with goats also works? at least for some people? what does "work" mean then? this way prostitution also "works". it really is not that different here. he gets a few lays and pays dearly for them. until it is over.
this is no game. or anything anyone should aspire to. or would you sincerely think and also judge from experience that this girl will love him forever just because of all the stuff he buys her? like 50% of PUA came into existence because exactly the opposite has happened with so many guys who had to learn it the hard way that you cant buy love. the other 50% stem from dudes that had no game and no money either. like i said, you cant be serious here.
Common patterns? Hah. Yeah, common patterns amongst guys who had serious and ongoing issues getting with women.flashpoint said:hard to believe you are being serious here. the last part has nothing to do with the DJ idea or even PUA. even the part about opinions is questionable, most of the concepts etc are the result of experience and common patterns. and the first part is not really convincing either.
We're talking about two 20 year olds. They're both fools. Just by the nature of their age. It's not about the money. Hell, man...guys on this site have money. It isn't the cure-all for getting women.NO not ANY behavior can work. that is just not true. this is a 20 year old kid with lots of money behind who has no clue or game and the girl he "gets" is also 20 and would be a fool not to accept all the gifts he is giving her.
Meh. Typical cynical sosuave logic. If she's into a guy with money, its because she's a gold digger. If she's into a guy without money, then she's cheating. No one ever thinks "Oh hey...wait a minute. She might actually be attracted to this dude." Why? Because he doesn't follow the rule book written by a bunch of guys who admittedly have issues with women.if that ring hasnt been from Tiffanys but something alot cheaper, she would have kicked him to the curb.
Man, all I'm saying is this - there's the possibility that the girl LIKES him. It ain't all about ****y&funny or being alpha or having 3% body fat.this is no game. or anything anyone should aspire to. or would you sincerely think and also judge from experience that this girl will love him forever just because of all the stuff he buys her? like 50% of PUA came into existence because exactly the opposite has happened with so many guys who had to learn it the hard way that you cant buy love. the other 50% stem from dudes that had no game and no money either. like i said, you cant be serious here.
Burroughs said:How will he feel when she gets gangbanged at a party during homecoming week? :crackup:
Will she be thinking about his tiffany ring when she is taking three cawks in every hole?
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Yes because every woman in the world is raging sl*t who loves to be gangban*ed. Seriously come on, quit watching porn and enter the real world.Packers2010 said:this is so on the money it's not even funny!
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.