backseatjuan
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Haha. He's pretty wealthy. The b'tch likes the gifts.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
I mean it seems like she likes him, but I guess its hard to tell if its genuine affection or if she just likes the monetary stuff.backseatjuan said:Haha. He's pretty wealthy. The b'tch likes the gifts.
Why do you care?RustleYourJimmies said:Do girls really fall for this? Theyre 20.
Theyve known each other for a month and apparently they just hit it off right from the start. This dude got on his knee with a Tiffany ring and asked her to be his GF. She said yes and is all happy and whatever.
This just screams beta, why do certain girls fall for this? Every girl of the same age (20) I've asked has said it was desperate and a little pathetic, do some girls just fall for this cheesy stuff?
He's also purchased her $100 sunglasses and taken her out to dinner tons of times to these very nice restaurants (nothing wrong with taking a girl out though I guess)
You think shes out of there once the gifts and stuff stops coming in?
I want an opinion on his gesture, why do you care if I care?mikey2012 said:Why do you care?
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Exactly.perseverance said:Whatever floats his boat, you may mock him, but he's gotten what he wanted; the girl.
It's not what I'd do, but everyone's different. I get the sense that you seem a little butthurt, not sure why that is if you're just friends?
I don't, beta boy.RustleYourJimmies said:I want an opinion on his gesture, why do you care if I care?
No wonder george clooney doesn't want to get married!SamTheHobit said:Exactly.
Sure thing troll.mikey2012 said:I don't, beta boy.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Any behavior can work. Depends on the girl. Depends on the guy.RustleYourJimmies said:Lol trust me, im not butthurt. I dont care, I'm just curious because I was taught this type of behavior doesnt work
hard to believe you are being serious here. the last part has nothing to do with the DJ idea or even PUA. even the part about opinions is questionable, most of the concepts etc are the result of experience and common patterns. and the first part is not really convincing either.Iceberg said:Any behavior can work. Depends on the girl. Depends on the guy.
Sosuave is opinions. Not facts.
If you listen to sosuave like it's 100% truth, then you'd believe that only 6'5", athletic, rich, ****y&funny douchebags were getting laid. And then you look around your town or city, and what do you see? People of every size, personality, and economic class walking around with a girlfriend on their arm.
If you spend a bunch of money on every woman on Earth as a show of affection, I'm sure you would still get your fair share. There are things out there called gold diggers. He would be getting taken advantage of, but hey, he got the girl. Which is exactly what happened here.flashpoint said:hard to believe you are being serious here. the last part has nothing to do with the DJ idea or even PUA. even the part about opinions is questionable, most of the concepts etc are the result of experience and common patterns. and the first part is not really convincing either.
NO not ANY behavior can work. that is just not true. this is a 20 year old kid with lots of money behind who has no clue or game and the girl he "gets" is also 20 and would be a fool not to accept all the gifts he is giving her. if that ring hasnt been from Tiffanys but something alot cheaper, she would have kicked him to the curb. that is not something that "works", just pure economics. maybe bying broads with goats also works? at least for some people? what does "work" mean then? this way prostitution also "works". it really is not that different here. he gets a few lays and pays dearly for them. until it is over.
this is no game. or anything anyone should aspire to. or would you sincerely think and also judge from experience that this girl will love him forever just because of all the stuff he buys her? like 50% of PUA came into existence because exactly the opposite has happened with so many guys who had to learn it the hard way that you cant buy love. the other 50% stem from dudes that had no game and no money either. like i said, you cant be serious here.
Common patterns? Hah. Yeah, common patterns amongst guys who had serious and ongoing issues getting with women.flashpoint said:hard to believe you are being serious here. the last part has nothing to do with the DJ idea or even PUA. even the part about opinions is questionable, most of the concepts etc are the result of experience and common patterns. and the first part is not really convincing either.
We're talking about two 20 year olds. They're both fools. Just by the nature of their age. It's not about the money. Hell, man...guys on this site have money. It isn't the cure-all for getting women.NO not ANY behavior can work. that is just not true. this is a 20 year old kid with lots of money behind who has no clue or game and the girl he "gets" is also 20 and would be a fool not to accept all the gifts he is giving her.
Meh. Typical cynical sosuave logic. If she's into a guy with money, its because she's a gold digger. If she's into a guy without money, then she's cheating. No one ever thinks "Oh hey...wait a minute. She might actually be attracted to this dude." Why? Because he doesn't follow the rule book written by a bunch of guys who admittedly have issues with women.if that ring hasnt been from Tiffanys but something alot cheaper, she would have kicked him to the curb.
Man, all I'm saying is this - there's the possibility that the girl LIKES him. It ain't all about ****y&funny or being alpha or having 3% body fat.this is no game. or anything anyone should aspire to. or would you sincerely think and also judge from experience that this girl will love him forever just because of all the stuff he buys her? like 50% of PUA came into existence because exactly the opposite has happened with so many guys who had to learn it the hard way that you cant buy love. the other 50% stem from dudes that had no game and no money either. like i said, you cant be serious here.
Burroughs said:How will he feel when she gets gangbanged at a party during homecoming week? :crackup:
Will she be thinking about his tiffany ring when she is taking three cawks in every hole?
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Yes because every woman in the world is raging sl*t who loves to be gangban*ed. Seriously come on, quit watching porn and enter the real world.Packers2010 said:this is so on the money it's not even funny!
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.