Double Standard

[Epicurus]

Some of the replies I've read on this thread are possibly single handily the biggest pieces of **** I've gazed my eyes upon in the past year. Mind you I teach at a public institution, so that should say a lot.
But to the OP it really depends on the situation and how well you can filter out and judge her character. Like many have also said. One may give it up for you on the first date when she's never done that before. One may make you wait when she always gives it up. That's the beauty of it you'll never know. Maybe you're just that smooth with the words. Her panties couldn't wait to drop !

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Really bruh? ****ng a lot makes their skin rough?
Plenty porn stars who get pounded on for hours a week by big horse dongs look perfectly regular..

Oh yeah. You must have seen some of these click bait type articles showing 'pornstars without makeup'. Most of them are like crackhead looking 4s and 5s underneath. But then maybe that is more to do with their other lifestyle choices.

Don't get me wrong, when a gf in a LTR fck ed good, on the regular, with all those orgasmic hormones coursing through her veins, her body and general being just glows. I can testify to that.

To clarify, I guess by 'excessive' I mean average fcking from many ****s, plural, getting ridden by everyone like she's public transport - probably not uncommon with girls who put out on the first night, for example. But again, maybe just indicative of how they look after their bodies in general, rather than to do with sex, per se.

 

[BeExcellent]

If she sleeps with you on the first date, she's unworthy of ltr?

If she takes too long to sleep with you she is a prude, gameplayer, has a low IL?

It's the classic double standard. But there is a reason it exists. One of my married girlfriends and I both have teenage sons. She routinely tells her son not to get serious with any girl who has sex too soon. I agree and counsel my son the same way. Likewise I counsel my daughters to be very discriminating about having sex & that I recommend waiting for marriage.

I don't care how liberated society & women think they get, it's really never a good idea to have sex (if you're female) lightly or too soon.

It's a ridiculous health risk for starters...Ewww.

Not to mention unplanned pregnancy.

But men are always going to press for sex. That's what men do. Women who won't allow themselves to be pump & dumps (by waiting) and generally your better quality girls.

So it all gets back to a man's sexual goals. Getting laid as much as possible requires a different strategy than finding a wife or LTR.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

I think it's a great tragedy that parents are today so open-minded with their children about sex. I mean, talk to them about sex, but give them the more conservative side. Even if you are very liberally minded personally, it is your function as a parent to present them with more reserved views.... just to even them out so to speak.... because all the received wisdom and all the media are screaming at them to go for it.

It's almost like a conspiracy... there is no better way to ruin a person's character than sex addiction. It's an addiction that sets up all the other one's and makes for good consumers.

I have a sister who sat and watched and giggled over every series of 'Sex and the City' with her daughter. She wanted to be best friends with her. How ridiculous.

 

[BeExcellent]

I mean, talk to them about sex, but give them the more conservative side

Agree 100% with this. Every other influence in their lives is going to encourage sexual behavior (without disclosing the serious risks both physical AND emotional). As a parent you have special importance and hopefully influence in their lives. I hope in the heat of the moment my voice is somewhere in the back of their mind saying "Mom wouldn't think this is a good idea because of X, Y, and Z."

At the end of the day as a parent you can only do so much. But that "so much" can actually be a substantial positive influence that helps them avoid making an irreversible mistake. I tell my kids all the time that irreversible mistakes are the ones they most need to avoid. But to avoid them requires judgement. It is no small feat teaching teenagers judgement in real time let me assure you

 

[Solomon]

0) My last girlfriend (then age 20) had sex with me on the first date (we had known each other for 9 months) and the last date. Looking back to that first date, it was pure magic. Her nipples were erect during dinner and we walked straight back to the hotel. The elevator doors closed and she moved in for the first kiss. We had sex within 10 minutes of being alone together, and she had her first orgasm. We both fell in love that night and stayed together for nearly a year. She texted a thank you after each and every date. We dated 9 months (knowing each other for 18 months). It ended suddenly, after we didn't see each other for a few weeks.

Since then, I've noticed extreme behavior with women.

1) 19 year old teacher threw herself at me. We had unprotected sex. She said I could come inside her (I didn't). She didn't text thank you. Then went back to her FB boyfriend.
2) 26 year old model spent the night with me. We almost had sex. I have avoided her since. She DID text thank you. She still reaches out 6 months later.
3) 25 year old bartender. We made out. She texted thank you but went back to her boyfriend.
4) 24 year old waitress. Love at first sight (on first two meetings). Date. Starry eyed comfortable silence. She had me take her home. We made out. She didn't text thank you. Never saw her again.
5) 20 year old stripper. Had three dates. She came back to my place. We made out. She DID text thank you after dates 1 and 2, but didn't text thank you after third date. Decent good night kiss. Never got a reply to my text.
6) 22 year old stripper. Ran into her after 9 months. She texted to confirm date in first text. Showed up on time. Starry eyed comfortable silence. Great goodnight kiss. She didn't text thank you. Never got a reply to my text.
7) 22 year old waitress. Threw herself at me first 3 times I saw her. Agreed to date. Started acting cold. I cancelled date.

So the pattern is extreme easy come, extreme easy go, with love at first sight the new norm, but with no thank you from the girl meaning the kiss of death.

Is it just me, or did women not usually be so easy to seduce and so easy to flee? Something is not right. WTF?

Like I said over a year ago - nowadays texting means more than kissing.

These young women must cost a small fortune....kudos to you Neil for living the life your way!