Zion
Senior Don Juan
Never sacrifice your career or future for anyone.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Don't know what to do with future because of gf
- Thread starter Dhoulmagus
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I am in the same boat. I've got 2 months left to graduate from university. If I succeed and cant get a job here, I move to an other chapter of my life. Thats its. She knows it, and I know it aswell. These guys are right, dont change your future for someone else.
Frayzer said:
Ha.. 180k house? That's it? .. Wow I wish home prices were like that here. Currently a shyt hole property near where I live is like 500k easy... There was one property for sale a while ago for 280k and it was a dive.. 9995 SF .. With asbestos insulation.. Man.. A 1bdrm condo here in vancouver, bc is 180k. The house I rent (which was built in the 60's) is 750k if I was to buy it.. And with current interest rates here @ prime + 2.75% if did.. And the interest goes up.. I would be fvcked.. And seeing how low interest rates are.. I'm sure they will hike it once people are trapped in 750k properties.. Shyt a 300k mortgage with prime + 2.75% will cost 50k in interest over 5 years... If interest went up to 4% or 6%.. There would be a lot of foreclosures.
My city is far too expensive to live in...
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I'm just going to clarify just in case my op is misleading. I will not stay a pizza driver for this girl. This girl's parents live in the city of my university, but she goes to school near Memphis. I can easily get a job in my field in Memphis, Nashville, Atlanta, Birmingham, Charlotte, and pretty much everywhere else in the country. The question is whether I should let this girl influence where I apply for jobs. If so, I will most likely apply in memphis where she's mainly at and my family lives there. The cons is that it's tn lol. Before I met this girl, I dreamed of going out west in to Arizona or something. This seems really bold and if I stayed in the southeast would it be better just to vacation there.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.