Just wanted to know if driving a car is necessary for having fun with girls. I mean right now I have to wait a month for my road test and im 18. Does that consider you low value if you tell a girl you don't have a licence or something?
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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Don't have a licence for car...no fun?
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The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Scars
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I haven't been driving for almost a year now because I wrecked my car last summer. I wouldn't say it lowered my value (because I am still getting and hooking up with girls) but it is a lot harder to try and hang out with them, let me tell you. My numbers would be a lot more higher if I was still driving that's for sure.
Don't you have any friends that drive? Lucky for me a lot my friends are into the community, so we tend to have double date type things. I usually start talking to a girl and then talk her into bringing a cute friend for my friend, or vice versa, that's how it all works. And I can confidently know that my wingman knows exactly what he's doing. If all the girls are pre-occupied with one of my male friends then there's nobody to c0ck block.
Don't you have any friends that drive? Lucky for me a lot my friends are into the community, so we tend to have double date type things. I usually start talking to a girl and then talk her into bringing a cute friend for my friend, or vice versa, that's how it all works. And I can confidently know that my wingman knows exactly what he's doing. If all the girls are pre-occupied with one of my male friends then there's nobody to c0ck block.
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Save money, dont get a car/insurance (but get your license), and move out instead of driving.
Flat out... yes it hurts your chances without a car, especially if you're still living with your parents full time. If you go off to college your chances go up significantly, but may still hurt just a little bit if you can't do things independently off campus. At my age however you would be seen as a complete loser if you don't have a car... any quality girls won't touch a 29 year old without a car.
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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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Its called living in a city or metropolitan area and working locally.Snowman23 said:
For where you can't walk/bike/bus (and in the winter), using cabs to get around (sensibly) is the same thing as driving your own car.
Captain Harlock
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get a motorcycle instead.
This is what happens when people build societies based around an expensive and impractical piece of machinery which uses a limited and dangerous resource.
I've never had a car in my life and it's never stopped me from getting a girl. I've lived in Washington, Boston, buenos Aires, and Ho Chi Minh city. All of those places (except HCMC) have good public transit systems. Yeah sometimes it takes longer to get places, but i more than make up for it in time saved trying to find parking.
I've never had a car in my life and it's never stopped me from getting a girl. I've lived in Washington, Boston, buenos Aires, and Ho Chi Minh city. All of those places (except HCMC) have good public transit systems. Yeah sometimes it takes longer to get places, but i more than make up for it in time saved trying to find parking.
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Well DUHmothballs said:
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
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not having a car makes u creative
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lol i agree... in most states thats impossible here in AmericaSnowman23 said:
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Not enough people utilize cabs, buses, and friends. When you move out, get some friends and family to help you. When you're living in the city or at least working near where you live, you'll be fine w/ metro and cabs (or, god forbid, bikng or *gasp* walking 
). Heck, living in the city and having a car is so redundant and not practical - parking is impossible, streets are slow, and everything is so close. The only people who drive in cities are commuters and cab drivers.
You can still go out wherever and whenever you want w/ the help of cabs. Before you complain about their price, realize you won't be paying insurance and gas for a car (not to mention routine repairs).
Also, going out on the weekends to parties or social events of other types shouldn't be hard assuming you're going with friends. If you aren't going with friends, you probably most likely cab there and back anyways even w/ a car assuming you get a lil' drunk.
Getting to work, doing groceries, etc is no big deal without a car so long as you have metro, cabs, etc.
And a girl won't touch a guy without a car? You never really need a car if you are in the city, and getting a cab to go places on nights out is a dandy idea, especially since without the expenses of a car, you'll be able to move out quicker. Having a pad > having a cheap money-blackhole car.
None of what I'm saying applies if you live in the suburbs, I'm talking about living in the city.
). Heck, living in the city and having a car is so redundant and not practical - parking is impossible, streets are slow, and everything is so close. The only people who drive in cities are commuters and cab drivers.You can still go out wherever and whenever you want w/ the help of cabs. Before you complain about their price, realize you won't be paying insurance and gas for a car (not to mention routine repairs).
Also, going out on the weekends to parties or social events of other types shouldn't be hard assuming you're going with friends. If you aren't going with friends, you probably most likely cab there and back anyways even w/ a car assuming you get a lil' drunk.
Getting to work, doing groceries, etc is no big deal without a car so long as you have metro, cabs, etc.
And a girl won't touch a guy without a car? You never really need a car if you are in the city, and getting a cab to go places on nights out is a dandy idea, especially since without the expenses of a car, you'll be able to move out quicker. Having a pad > having a cheap money-blackhole car.
None of what I'm saying applies if you live in the suburbs, I'm talking about living in the city.
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Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
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A car is freedom, you may live in the city but what if you meet a hottie that lives outside the city? Plus I hate riding crowded, stinky buses with fat people asses in my face.
Captain Harlock
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until you're stuck in a traffic jam (every few seconds in most cities), or need to find a place to park.thewarrior said:
Captain Harlock said:
That's why you use mass transit when in the city and just use the car when you want to get out of the city. Most of the people I know who live in a big city have cars and they just keep them parked for anything they might want to do within the city... the metro systems pretty much put everything in walking distance and they're dirt cheap.
And just for clarification I live upstate... not in NYC.
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LMAO, you want someone to pay upwards of 15 grand a year just for "sometimes" getting out of the city? Some people don't have that luxury, and we are answering by taking into account that the OP is probably one of those people.
If you want to tell me flying by private jet is the best choice, say it.
Anyways, for sometimes getting out of the city, you gotta get friends to drive, the girl (if its a date), or take a bus (they do that, since you clearly aren't aware).
This isn't about luxury and crap. If a man has to choose between having a car and living at home, and living on his own in the city, living in the city is miles and miles better and gives you way more freedom. Ask people in the city if they ever leave to "go out" out of town, and the answer is usually no. Everything is in the city, and if friends want you to chill out of town, they can drive you (they probably would anyway). If you're going on a date or family function outside of town, make the lucky host drive.
You guys are simply saying "ooo public transit is icky" and ignoring that living with your parents past 23-24 is a no-no. period. THAT is 'icky', and if you don't have the funds for both a car and a pad, get the pad.
If you want to tell me flying by private jet is the best choice, say it.
Anyways, for sometimes getting out of the city, you gotta get friends to drive, the girl (if its a date), or take a bus (they do that, since you clearly aren't aware).
This isn't about luxury and crap. If a man has to choose between having a car and living at home, and living on his own in the city, living in the city is miles and miles better and gives you way more freedom. Ask people in the city if they ever leave to "go out" out of town, and the answer is usually no. Everything is in the city, and if friends want you to chill out of town, they can drive you (they probably would anyway). If you're going on a date or family function outside of town, make the lucky host drive.
You guys are simply saying "ooo public transit is icky" and ignoring that living with your parents past 23-24 is a no-no. period. THAT is 'icky', and if you don't have the funds for both a car and a pad, get the pad.
15 grand a year? :crackup: You act like people can't control the cost of a car... I paid $6k for my car and have spent about $3k on maintenance and my insurance is $498 a year... comes out to about $2k a year I spent since I bought it. What is this talk about having to choose between a pad and a car at 24 anyway... you should be coming out of college with enough earning potential to pay for both plus some by that age.
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You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.