"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Don't get it, everyone thinks I'm successful with the ladies, when in reality...

teddy

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I'm not at all. Like I've said on this board before, I've never even had a girlfriend.

And yet, because I'm sociable and well-liked by my peers, they assume I'm successful.

Nothing to do with my looks or frame because they are both below-average. Makes me wonder if I'm too friendly. But then once I think that, I start messing up.

Frankly, I'm a little puzzled why I've had zero success because even a blind squirrel runs into an acorn once in a while.

The good news is that I faced reality and accepted I've gotten nowhere and am in trying in the process to build myself back up. It just really sucks though when you see other betas have success. Oneitis doesn't help, either.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Mike32ct

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First, let me say, DON'T tell anybody that you are having trouble with women*.

You have a great rep as a guy that gets girls. Please don't ruin it by "letting the cat out of the bag."

Trust no one to keep their mouth shut about your real situation.

Post on here for advice. Seeking advice from female friends or even most guy friends will do far more harm than good.

The absolute best place to be is the guy that others know or believe is a ladies man, but you don't actually talk about it. Girls will see him as a smooth, sexy, experienced guy that they can have fun with, AND he's discreet enough not to kiss and tell.

*As the latest of "late bloomers," I learned this the hard way. This point about keeping it to yourself absolutely CANNOT be overemphasized.
 

CrimsonPanther

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if you are sociable, and friendly, and still don't have success with women, try being more sexual (not a pervert). use kino, and escalate more aggresively. don't hide your intentions. be open about it, a dominant, but not intimidating.
with escalation, keep your cool, move 2 steps forward, if resisted, one back, try again later, just don't emanate that harmless guy friend aura. it leads to friendzone.
for all guys who are insecure: rejection is BETTER than friendzone. trust me it is. not worth spending time on lost cases when you could just next and bang another.
also, ask yourself: do the guys look at you as a friend or as a leader? do they respect you even? if not, there could also be a problem. if yes, just be more sexual :)
 

Vice

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Go out and approach seven nights a week for a month and see how your oneitis is affected.
 

Poop1337

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It's good to be seen as a ladies man. Girls want to get with guys who can get girls. If people saw you as a loser with women it would only add to your struggles.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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JaegerPilot217

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Poop1337 said:
It's good to be seen as a ladies man. Girls want to get with guys who can get girls. If people saw you as a loser with women it would only add to your struggles.
yup women have a pre-selection mentality
 
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