"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Don Juan Bible: Still legit?
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
JohnChops
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Why have Facebook and texting ruined the game? What do you mean by technology? Social Media?
As I know, you have more opportunities nowadays.
My next problem is, everywhere there are already pairs. If I'd like to approach someone, she's either being approached by anyone else or she's together with him. It demotivates me. It seems like they have read and are applying pickup books and the instructions in them.
In Pickup Artist books, there's told, wonderful women won't get approached. In my opinion, it has changed! They get approached now! I fear, that there won't be rest any for me once. Some years ago, I was used to approach girls and women in the public on daytime. I got positive responses.I failed in **** tests. Now, I don't get positive responses any more. Once I even landed in the friend zone and the girl was leading the conversation. But I wasn't needy!
But now, it has become harder. There's hardly any woman alone. Wherever I see, she's coupled with a man. Either he is not that handsome or he looks like everyone else. Now, I'm forced to go to night clubs to try my luck. There, I don't get my mouth up, cause I don't know what to say and what to talk about. That's why I checked out Love Systems products. What do you think of canned materials?
I'm introverted and have no social intuition (always saying something that doesn't interest anyone, I'm said to talk too much or about rubbish topics), no social skills, no friends either. Therefore, I wanna go after Don Juan Boot Camp at first. I read DJ Bible. It's told to be adventurous and not to be that nice as the girl is.
I think, many hot women go for the alpha of groups. At least I've seen the proof.
this is a pretty new concept, the click of a power swithc and a mouse and there are the hoardes of males salivating on the females FB page. more so the prettier she is.
women never used to have this, thereofre an approach by a guy, a back handed compliment would have more of an effect.
the DJ bible still holds though, those principles and lessons are still valid, they just need tweaking to counter the ever increasing swarms of attention wh0res
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I actually meant, if I get a very good and musculous body shape that women will go for me and approach me?
charmest said:
you should always be higher value, dont follow the herd, withold the attention, as for the musculous body shape??? works for some but its no guarantee on its own. you should stay in shape though, rarely goes against you
I'm going to read the Boot Camp, cause I need an instruction how to approach and how to attract --> social skills!
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
zekko
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Nothing has changed. Attractive women have always been approached, and approached a lot. That's the way nature has it set up. Saying that attractive women don't get approached is one of the biggest lies ever made up.charmest said:
It's not just a pickup thing though, I remember hearing as a kid that beautiful women don't get approached because guys were afraid of them. Some guys are afraid of them, true. But there are more than enough other guys who will be enticed enough to follow through to make up for it. I've always thought this was something guys made up to make themselves feel better about their chances. Or maybe it comes from the beautiful women, who are being approached, but aren't being approached as much as they think they should lol.
This was one of the things I was told when I was a kid that I was most disappointed to find out wasn't true when I grew up. If there's a pretty girl, there will be guys all over her like flies on sh!t.
As I went some months ago in a bar, a girl danced with me. She was a bit hot, brazilian, you know.
Shortly after it, a really hot woman, maybe the hottest there, came to me and danced with me. I just danced with her for few seconds cause I was a bit tired. But else, she was alone! At the end, I was saying bye to her and she remained looking in my eyes. I did the same with her. After 30 seconds, I rolled my eyes and was going to go, as she answered with "bye". Then I reached her my hand and she gave me her hand and I went.
I mean: There are much more women connected with men. I'd say: HB7-9 have partners now. The success rate of HB10s with a partner is still low.
Some times ago, guys didn't have success with their approach at HBs. I mean: Now it has changed. They HAVE success!
My biggest fear is if there'll remain any (hot) girls/women for me or not. Until April last year, I was approached my women. I liked it so I could hope to get approached any time. I fear, this won't happen any more any time.
Currently, I have no success with gorgeous women. The ugly ones seem sometimes attracted to me or the older ones. Maybe, because I'm overweight right now. But in April, I was approached by a great looking and educated woman.
Pook meant, the greater your body is, the better your chances will get and hot women will approach you!
I'll stick with this idea!
Until 2009, I thought no woman would want me. I was bullied in school almost every time. A guy told, it'd be wrong to think like this. He recommended me "Double Your Dating". I approached with the help of "Rules of the Game"
In those times, I was one of the less people who approached women in daytime. Now, it has changed. Women have higher demands in men.
I think, everything will become now as if it was in my childhood and I was bullied. From 2009 on, I had even light success at women who were out of my league (like HB9).
Now the DJ Bible may be some 10 years old, and not up to date in the ways that technology are. As I don't follow the whole never text rule, and stuff, because I feel that that just is counterproductive as girls today are so into technology and not texting can just ruin your chances sometimes.
That being said, the key is to never do it too much. Call whenever it is appropriate, and text only to set up actual interations in person. The same rule applies to facebook, twitter, what have you. Although I'll say there is probably more flexibility with twitter, if you're familiar with that culture.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Else,it's very hard, because women look for AMoGs, the alpha males who are leader of groups. I have no friends that IS what fears me.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.