"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Does this make me look desperate?

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Went to a big house party at a friends house a couple weeks ago and hit it off with a couple that lives a few hours away from me. The gal in the couple was pretty drunk but kept saying me and a female friend of mine who was also at the party should come visit them. Said we could go out to the bars or whatever and that she had a girlfriend from work that she wanted to introduce me to. Like I said, she was pretty drunk and was flirting with me way more than I would have been comfortable with if I was her bf. Her friend was pretty smokin, but doesn't it seem kinda desperate to follow up with her and be like "hey, about me coming to visit..." what would you guys do in this situation? I may likely never see these two people again, otherwise.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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SmooveMooves

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If she's in.your social circle wait for her to bring it back up, if not, forget about it and focus on other plates.

You answered your own question

"hey, about me coming to visit...." = " Hey, remember when you offered me to hang out with you and a buddy while we were both drunk? I'd really like that opportunity because I have dont have any other options"

It would come off as desperate bro.
 

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I disagree with SmooveMooves, if she extended the invitation as well as a number to contact her, then there is no desperation in saying "Hey wanna hang out sometime?" If she remembers the drunk encounter she'll either tell you a good date for it or she'll say she was too drunk and can't see you.

You don't have to word it like a weirdo: "Hey so remember when you were drunk af and brought up hanging out in the future? I wanna try that!" Just be relaxed, hit her up and see what happens. Worst case scenario is you strike out and never see her again anyways.
 

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MrNiceGuy23 said:
I disagree with SmooveMooves, if she extended the invitation as well as a number to contact her, then there is no desperation in saying "Hey wanna hang out sometime?" If she remembers the drunk encounter she'll either tell you a good date for it or she'll say she was too drunk and can't see you.

You don't have to word it like a weirdo: "Hey so remember when you were drunk af and brought up hanging out in the future? I wanna try that!" Just be relaxed, hit her up and see what happens. Worst case scenario is you strike out and never see her again anyways.
I would be less interested in getting with the girl that invited me because she has a bf, but to meet this work friend of hers that she said is single. I may have made that confusing by saying she was really flirting with me.

Your point still stands about not making it creepy if I did try though.
 

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I don't think it would be creepy either. Send her something funny from the night and see where the convo goes.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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