ilikecharlene
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does it work, and do people in common society actually use it? or is the seduction community just an online thing?
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
does most PUA stuff actually work?
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
if it will give you the balls talk to a chick VS not talking to them. Then yes, it always will be better.. your chances will always be better than not approaching her. I think thats a good foundation for it.
It's all a numbers game. We all have a ratio above our heads. The good looking guys probably have a ratio of 1:4 women.
The normal guys probably have 1:20 women.
It will convert.. trust me.
It's all a numbers game. We all have a ratio above our heads. The good looking guys probably have a ratio of 1:4 women.
The normal guys probably have 1:20 women.
It will convert.. trust me.
Mike32ct
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If she's attracted to you (ie you meet or exceed her minimum looks criteria) most anything works. If she isn't attracted to you, at best PUA stuff will provide free entertainment for her. Then her and her friends will take off when your cool stories/routines run out. At worst, it will annoy her or creep her out.
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Case f**kin' closed!Mike32ct said:
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
ilikecharlene
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does it work for you?
Mike32ct
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I definitely tried it and found it only works if she's already attracted. But in those cases, you don't need it anyway.
Honestly, the only benefit of PUA stuff is what DJnoob said. It gets guys to approach.
You don't need any techniques or scripted lines to approach. But if you really need a "crutch" or "training wheels" then a canned (memorized) opener and maybe a short fun story is fine to start with. If you MUST do this, pick a true story from your life.
However, if you want to challenges yourself to REALLY learn game, learn to approach with an "empty head." Just walk up to the girl or girls with NO CLUE what you are going to say. Once you are in front of them, you can open with "hi" or mention something situational or just introduce yourself. Then just wing it. You can then develop the great skill of speaking off the cuff. That is real natural game. That's where it's at.
This will take practice. You mind will probably go blank a few times. It's ok to eject if you are totally drawing a blank. Just politely excuse yourself, "I gotta get going. It was cool meeting you two."
Honestly, the only benefit of PUA stuff is what DJnoob said. It gets guys to approach.
You don't need any techniques or scripted lines to approach. But if you really need a "crutch" or "training wheels" then a canned (memorized) opener and maybe a short fun story is fine to start with. If you MUST do this, pick a true story from your life.
However, if you want to challenges yourself to REALLY learn game, learn to approach with an "empty head." Just walk up to the girl or girls with NO CLUE what you are going to say. Once you are in front of them, you can open with "hi" or mention something situational or just introduce yourself. Then just wing it. You can then develop the great skill of speaking off the cuff. That is real natural game. That's where it's at.
This will take practice. You mind will probably go blank a few times. It's ok to eject if you are totally drawing a blank. Just politely excuse yourself, "I gotta get going. It was cool meeting you two."
Agreed, there has to be a level of attraction first. I think what pua tips do is help you spot the signs a girl is interested, help you build the confidence to approach, and what you need to do in order to close her. All of it is moot point if she isn't attracted.
I don't use any "techniques" but what I do like about those articles is a lot of it is about self respect and working on yourself. Qualities like being confident, being able to tell jokes in the right spot and being able to assert yourself are not only to be used for picking up women. Sure it is good, but those qualities will help you in every aspect of your life. Instead of looking at something like that from such a linear approach and stealing lines from the articles (which probably won't help), try to take the main idea of everything and implement it in your life. You'll probably notice a difference everywhere.
Just make things natural
Just make things natural
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
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It's just like a placebo effect to get guys to talk to girls.
If she's attracted to you and you actually approach her, a neg hit or peacocking aren't going to mean sh1t. You can have a decent conversation with the ch1ck and you'll be able to get down her pants too.
Lot's of PUAs have different methods and most have pretty great success rates. Know why? It's not the technique, it's just that they have the balls to approach and talk to a woman. It's not rocket science.
PUA stuff DOES work if it helps you overcome approach anxiety and helps build your conversational skills.
If she's attracted to you and you actually approach her, a neg hit or peacocking aren't going to mean sh1t. You can have a decent conversation with the ch1ck and you'll be able to get down her pants too.
Lot's of PUAs have different methods and most have pretty great success rates. Know why? It's not the technique, it's just that they have the balls to approach and talk to a woman. It's not rocket science.
PUA stuff DOES work if it helps you overcome approach anxiety and helps build your conversational skills.